Jan 15, 2021

Not really. Since this is coming so quickly after the $600 check, most will see the $1400 as an extension of that lol. Biden never promised $2000 on top of the 600 and the number 1400 has been floating around since the last checks passed. This is also one of at least three stimulus packages Biden is working with D leadership on so 2000 in the future isn't ruled out.
I also have a hard time seeing Manchin or any republican in senate voting yes on anything higher than 1400 this time around

 

Jan 15, 2021

well, we’ll see—i’m confident that in time polling will prove me right

 

Jan 15, 2021

you (and @Donkey Kong Cuntry ) genuinely dont know how this stuff works lol.

 

Jan 15, 2021

yeah, you guys are arguing that people who read politico could see between the lines, which, sure. but to pretend that it wasn’t duplicitous to not clarify the messaging immediately after the $600 went out... come on.

 

Jan 15, 2021

i know the orioles are bad and you have to cheer for someone but pls!

 

Jan 15, 2021

"LMMMAAAOOOOO" pls, no crutches. and im not 'frothing at the mouth' -- thats you. as always, reflexive logic.

loser mentality from loser progressives who - again - dont know how this stuff works, and constantly make perfection the enemy of progress. $1.9 trillion, still furious. its pathetic tbh which is fine except it undercuts momentum and threatens Actually helping people for once. note, dear reader, he cant respond to me bringing up manchin/murkowski etc.... bc he cant!!!

 

Jan 15, 2021

My question here is why aren't you celebrating a $15/hr minimum wage but are up in arms about an extra $600 (that was sent out two weeks ago). Like, that is a major win for progressives considering the moderates in the party preferred $12/hr

@Swizz and @Captain Awesome AKA Papa are right here. whining over the $600 and glossing over this great stimulus package thats a major win is loser rhetoric.

I think like most of us here have the same goals but the more pragmatic progressives on here (myself and @Enigma ) realize that for a progressive agenda you have to operate in the framework of political reality. Not everything is like $2000 or bust. Most Americans will understand that since this is being passed so quickly after the last package it is meant to be an extension of the $600 check.

 

Jan 15, 2021

orioles and twins have the same number of world championships this century b----!

 

Jan 15, 2021

I think his point is that the progressive wing of the party would prefer gridlock in the name of unattainable goals over meaningful progress.

 

Jan 15, 2021

which is pop-psych bs that is entirely untrue and reveals more about the person lobbing it than about its target

 

Jan 15, 2021

im telling u from anecdotes here in dc, bernie isnt a team player.... both in terms of his lofty progressive idelogy (sure) but also hes just kind of a cranky d-ck. and yeah, you dont know what youre talking about lol, separate point.

like other ppl - brown, wyden, warren - are better liked, more operational .... that said even HE knows this is a good deal. $15/min wage is a huge huge win. lets hope we get there and joe rogan-style progressives, a la Mr. Thompson, dont sink it. huge tragedy if so.

 

Jan 15, 2021

please don't ever mention alt-right hero Joe Rogan in the same name as progressives lmao.

 

Jan 15, 2021

“i know you are but what am i” is not the rhetorical cudgel you think it is

why will you not address the fact that i am not and never have been talking about the merits of $1,400 vs. $2,000 in direct payments and am still talking about the fundamentally slipperiness with which it was sold?

 

Jan 15, 2021

its 100% true cmon. progressives arent in charge ~~~~~~~~anywhere and have the reputation for being rhetorical/ineffectual perfectionists for a reason like, wat. what reality are we talking about?

 

Jan 15, 2021

...the one where people who oppose their policies pathologize them so they don’t have to argue on the merits

 

Jan 15, 2021

not really, check AOCs social media replies after she joins any meaningful piece of legislation. Like, she gets crucified for working with moderates any time she does lol. There's a large portion of the progressive movement who thinks that moderate Democrats are the enemy as much or moreso than Republicans. The all or nothing bunch.

 

Jan 15, 2021

? can someone decipher these comebacks for me pls lol. im squinting

? $15/min wage is slippery d---. talk about losing forest for the trees.