Jan 15, 2021

dont make me change focus here

 

Jan 15, 2021

you're not making substantive arguments worth responding to, as i already said. progressives seeing your beloved moderate democrats as a long-term tactical challenge is not the same as thinking they're identical to republicans. you are, again, either puzzlingly unable to accept that or shrilly refusing to.

 

Jan 15, 2021

No. Moderate democrats are about to pass a $15/hr minimum wage and a major infrastructure package which were two of the major tentpoles of progressive policy. You have failed to show how that is a tactical challenge.
Because you have no way to show that, you result to personal insults. It's predictable, low brow, very common in political discourse & doesn't make you special.

 

Jan 15, 2021

lol dude do you really not understand how entrenched moderates in this system of government roadblock transformative change? i'm speaking in value-neutral terms here, btw––same would apply to, like, radical libertarian types who agree w republicans on some issues. this is polisci 101 stuff, i'm surprised you're not grasping it.

 

Jan 15, 2021

Do you really not understand how without moderate approval there is not enough support for progressive issues? if being a progressive was that popular there would be more progressive politicians lmao. Progressives are a loud minority who think they are the majority and don't want anything to be done unless it 100% meets every single policy goal they have. Half-wins to them are worse than losses because it makes people more complacent.
It's stupid logic.
I agree with almost every progressive agenda, doesn't mean I'm crying over moderates giving 1400 instead of 2000 when they are delivering a 15/hr minimum wage lol. Every aspect of this stimulus is a major win but since it's not progressive enough people will continue to cry over it.

 

Jan 15, 2021

again: absurd pseudo-psych babble that is simply not true. you sound exactly like republicans describing "liberals." you should be embarrassed!

dude, you work for a defense contractor lol

 

Jan 15, 2021

what do you want, five? half-wins are never enough for you

 

Jan 15, 2021

like.... passing $15 /min wage? federalizing the covid response? rebuilding infrastructure? hold up let me send u some recent news stories.....

battle royale.. pick a side (pick me)

 

Jan 15, 2021

What part isn't true? you can't just handwave lmao.

Something, which I had immense moral qualms about (also, for someone who cries stalker so much, you sure spend a lot of time outside of the forum talking about me), but ultimately decided was in my families best interest. I'm also joining a union, so don't insinuate I'm a conservative just because I took the best opportunity available for me.

 

Jan 15, 2021

Only one of those white guys has a hispanic daughter though, just want to clarify before @WPG pulls the race card as another form of low brow attack.

 

Jan 15, 2021

that Is kind of funny if grimace is the one here to join a union, while wpg thriving in the cold, libertarian tech gig economy

 

Jan 15, 2021

i absolutely can, lol. what you said was projection that doesn't deserve to be dignified.

will be sure to tell the families of dead libyans that you felt bad about it.

bro please do not use your daughter as a rhetorical pawn in forum debates lmao

 

Jan 15, 2021

i believe arch dogg is a member of Discussing Irish d-ck Size Local #431

 

Jan 15, 2021

- you can, but it makes you look weakminded and like a loser
- Please do, at the same time I'll be working in the missile defense side (not the drone side); the company would still be making these weapons whether I work there or not; and it was the best opportunity for me to raise myself out of poverty.
- She's not a rhetorical pawn, I just want you to know that I think in the interest of my minority family when I say some change is better than principled lack of change. Cause I can see from miles away you telling me it's easy to like moderates as a white guy, or something ridiculous like that. Until you know anything about fatherhood, refrain from telling me anything about it.

 

Jan 15, 2021

i am obsessed with this guy going "i'm not projecting! i'm not!" and then putting race essentialist and fatherhood(?) arguments in my mouth. like, dude...