Oct 31, 2020

Ik my point is self-labels aside, when it counts (Likes) only one of us is doing the lords work

 

Oct 31, 2020

most economists propose that you don’t see returns on legislation until 4-8 years later, the last 4-8 years were what we should be judging Obama for, as much as I hate to say it the increase seen is more likely due to gwb jr

 

Oct 31, 2020

So, your bosses could lay you off tomorrow and say... "Uhhhh, its Obama's fault from 8 years ago."


And you'd be like.... "that logic checks out!" ?


Then you'd run and vote for Trump?

 

Oct 31, 2020

so same logic shouldn’t trumps economy be credited to Obama and Biden? Or does this only work when republicans drive policy (or in the case of gwb, a worldwide recession)

 

Oct 31, 2020

How's it looking my us friends, who's gonna win?

 

Oct 31, 2020

Obama's Domestic oil boom was due to Oil Companies giving up on the idea of exploiting Iraq for cheap oil and the price of oil being high enough to make shale oil fracking profitable.

It was actually the failure of Bush43's plan of murdering Iraqi people and them deciding to give our oil companies drilling rights that lead to more oil jobs in Texas when Obama was President.

 

Oct 31, 2020

Fax. Andy just used “intransigence” and no one batted an eye

I had to google the definition. And now I learned a new word.

 

Oct 31, 2020

Trump is about to get throttled and he will have a one way ticket to Rikers Island courtesy of SDNY the moment he's out of office.

 

Oct 31, 2020

entirely fair, but that’s on the dems for not proposing a more viable plan imo. “lesser of two evils” is not the best they can do,

take everything that follows with multiple grains of salt,

In my anecdotal experience, most of the solar growth has been from local roofing companies companies looking to make an extra $. Not that that’s bad in any way I just don’t see that phasing oil unless we’re tryna become serfing usa

and again purely from anecdotal evidence knowing someone who worked shortly at a wind farm, those things are staffed by like a dozen ppl per MAX, usually more like 3/4. In a single building that y’all you’d have at least 2 or 3x that in the plants. And the money doesn’t trickle down the way one could argue from a smaller workforce. In fact in my friends case the wind job paid less than the average entry level plant job

I have nothing bad to say about nuclear. Ppl much smarter than I have already debunked every major concern I hear

 

Oct 31, 2020

If my boss laid me off that would have literally f--- all to do with oil production for that year

we both know you’re capable of making compelling good-faith arguments, I want better from u res!

oil exec scare mongering absolutely exists. they’re the ones pulling the strings in the super pacs and telling these c---- to act this way, I just think that dems and reps are both gonna be stupid and play their ballgame so I understand if a player votes for their home teams’ win.

but back to your point, I’m genuinely having trouble connecting the dots in logic here... economic and industrial effects can be seen over time, ergo whatever gwb did good or bad would likely be seen over the course of the next administration, ergo I’d simp for him if I got laid off? I know it’s Halloween but there’s no need to be making straw men out here

 

Oct 31, 2020

“you think that huh? well I bet that means you think this totally unrelated stupid thought I just had!!”

 

Oct 31, 2020

100% I been telling ppl the last 4 years all the things they like about trump came from Obama’s plans. I ain’t a trump dickrider I don’t even like the guy I just think not having the thread be a circle jerk is constructive to discourse in the bigger picture. Even if u disagree w me, u can clearly see I’m not some trump train brainlet. There’s compelling reasons to vote for him here

 

Oct 31, 2020

a few notes as I cbf to edit:

Don’t let that “money doesn’t trickle down” comment let y’all think I believe in phony reganomics, trickle down is a sham and I dislike Obama and trump for using various shades of it still

also, I know someone will probably call me out for saying “voting for their team” in ref to an oil employee voting red, yes that’s still the slave voting for the master but they’re voting for a much, MUCH nicer slave house

 

Oct 31, 2020

Recommend u read this in case u are interested in Obama’s pov on how difficult and unpopular decisions get made to help everyday Americans. It isn’t pretty but it’s frequently noble, especially when u realize how misguided and destructive the opposition is:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/02/barack-obama-new-book-excerpt-promised-land-obamacare

Thwse are complicated issues to be sure

 

Oct 31, 2020

Would Biden go for a lockdown if he wins?

He says he will listen to the science. Much of Europe is in a 2nd lockdown.
US are approaching 100k+ cases a day

 

Oct 31, 2020

will read soon, and I’m not entirely anti Obama, but while I agree a lot of his shortcomings were from the reps not being willing to even meet him halfway to the middle; whatever complaints he has he could’ve vocalized in the moment as the god d--- POTUS and not write a f---ing blogspot about it afterwards. Just f---in livestream yourself like “hey guys here’s the bill here’s Republican homeboy vetoing it what more do ya want from me“ if he’s really as blameless as that (ik that’s not what ur saying, just speaking to that general POV)

If the reps weren’t transparent enough, the dems not being transparent enough about that fact makes them complicit. If they’re the lesser of two evils, they should start acting like it

 

Oct 31, 2020

The democrats have not done enough for Texas for Texas to take their bs on blind faith. The republicans are still so full of s--- their eyes are brown, but they’ll wipe that s--- off with a few more $100s than the other guys. Any third party vote makes the most sense to me, but as far as expectations vs returns between the big two, I still don’t see a biden argument to be that compelling

 

Oct 31, 2020

yeah i like yang man..also looked at joe really funny and wondered if they botched his numbers from the beginning to kinda just lean people into him but i think biden was their choice for the nom from when he announced

people like yang didn’t stand a chance, getting his name cut out of debates, very limited questioning and speaking time..

i see what you mean by the handling of the virus but once you accept that this virus was a very very scheduled event that was always going to happen, you just look at it a little differently

for crying out loud bill gates went on a 7 year “depopulate the earth” press run and now he’s advisor #1. i know it’s just conspiracy jargon but without a “cure”, it was gonna spread regardless. every week they kept adding new ways the virus could spread

the only real difference i see in how both sides would handle the virus is a mandatory mask mandate and that just feels, a step to far..but i guess we already gave em the patriot act

 

Oct 31, 2020

worrying about the further exploitation trumps deregulation and other policies will do is valid, but u can’t ask currently-exploited people to put other exploited people over themselves. It’s why in Florida they have the Latinos for trump, who f---in cares what he said about Mexicans? He put more food on their plate than the dems would’ve

and ik it’s not that simple. In reality it’s more that trump and co are agreeing to pull slightly less food out of their mouths than the dems would’ve. He’s still a heartless exploitator.

But that’s the entire point imo, and the failing of dems in being complicit in the mediocrity: its all about the lesser evil, and for the working Texan, that most predominantly means Trump