Nov 3, 2020

Every government policy is flawed. Nothing is perfect. The whole process of governing is to improve institutions & systems as we go along. That’s what I keep telling you. Wait...are you an anarchist? If so, that would make a lot more sense lol.

Dude, you’re a leftist, stop parroting Republican talking points. You’re better than that. Again, if more guns were the answer, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. There are tons of guns circulating in the U.S. & far too many young black men die in cities like Chicago because of it.

 

Nov 3, 2020

neither of these are a solid rebuke to gun registration methods currently discriminating against disaffected peoples. that first paragraph is so vague and could be used to justify any s-----y policy ever. owning guns aren’t a Republican talking point you’re just too suburban to know what ur talking about

 

Nov 3, 2020

y’all don’t realize how quickly this argument circles back to pro cop. what alternative does one have if they can’t defend themselves? we all now how inept and awful policing can be in high risk areas, how the h--- can you justify putting people in that position for decades

 

Nov 3, 2020

libs trying to simultaneously defund cops (which is good) and disarm ppl in areas where those who want to illegally purchase arms, can (which is bad)

 

Nov 3, 2020

also no I’m not anarchist lol? you’e speaking from such a position of privilege rn dude I’m not even trying to be lame but like it’s genuinely gross how many ppl claim to stand in solidarity with the African American community but want to be morally righteous while they go about pointing the figurative gun to their head

ur left as well right? check ur privilege dawg, straight up. this is not the area for u to speak on

 

Nov 3, 2020

So for the like 100000x time...let’s work through those issues. Make the system better. Why are you acting like we can’t walk & chew gum at the same time?

You’re regurgitating the same old, “we need good guys with guns” conservative talking point. It’s a bad argument & I think you know it lol.

By improving their living conditions as you proposed yourself in the beginning of the conversation? Improving policing. This s--- doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Like..hello?

 

Nov 3, 2020

No, I’m not

yes exactly make the system better, not enforce the current flawed system even more heavily

I already said in a more perfect system it would make sense. But not now, and not how Biden’s proposing it. Govt and police accountability needs to come before civilian accountability especially given who it will impact the most

 

Nov 3, 2020

Philando Castile.

 

Nov 3, 2020

maybe my privilege comment was worded a bit harsh but I genuinely find it gross to conflate concern for marginalized communities and the effect unethical legislation would have on them with “Republican talking points” and to do so with such unwarranted confidence

 

Nov 3, 2020

You quite literally are lol. You’re arguing that the removal of firearms from the streets of low-income areas would lead to more death & despair of innocents which would be inconsistent with a lot of research on gun violence.

Biden isn’t proposing a firearm registry. Hold on...are you suggesting we ought to keep guns flowing throughout the streets of low-income communities because they keep those communities safe from police??? Is that your argument?

 

Nov 3, 2020

except the part where I said buybacks would be fine if we could afford them and that once we have some judicial reform then registration will be the valid next step

honestly dude, I’m disengaging, you’ve struck a nerve, I can’t stand ppl that use leftist ideology just to be smug and not really fight for disadvantaged peoples.

 

Nov 3, 2020

Legal gun owner. Police still murdered him in cold blood. Somehow @skip believes more guns in these communities will keep them safer though.

 

Nov 3, 2020

never said more guns. you’re not really concerned you’re trying to have a battle of wits. I am genuinely bothered by your behavior dude. Do better

 

Nov 3, 2020

Bruh...you’ve been stomping around here on your moral high horse talking about privileged this, privileged that & then you’re going to accuse me of being smug for asking a genuine question? Lmaooooo.

Again, if what you’re arguing was actually true, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now. If more guns in low income communities actually kept them safe, we wouldn’t see dozens of shootings in Chicago every weekend. If more guns in these communities actually kept them safe from police, we wouldn’t be witnessing so much police brutality against people of color.

I think if we want to reduce gun crime rates, its best to follow in the foot steps of other developed nations who have enacted similar policies & done just that. This isn’t a #hottake by any means.

 

Nov 3, 2020

I mean of course he may be alive today if he wasn't legally carrying his gun.

But at least the cop who murdered him was found guilty, right?


And the NRA fought for his rights, right?

 

Nov 3, 2020

you are privileged. stfu dude

again, never said more guns

what you’re proposing would be more akin to the Brazilian favela raids pre fifa

 

Nov 3, 2020

f--- the nra lmao

 

Nov 3, 2020

it’s just gross you’re lecturing me on how Chicago would be and s--- when I literally almost lost family there and the only thing that saved them was the gun that got them incarcerated. You’re from a completely different world. Check your f---ing privilege man holy f---

 

Nov 3, 2020

you’re going to advocate for poor people to f---ing die and do it in the most self-masturbatory way possible

 

Nov 3, 2020

That’s literally what you’ve been fighting me on this whole time lmaooo. You’ve been screeching about how terrible of a person I am for wanting to remove guns from the streets & how it would be awful for communities of color. You even gave me your own d--- sob story about it:

quite obviously, you believe removing firearms off the streets is some moral wrongdoing for??? I’m not quite sure because you called me “smug” when I asked lmao.

No lol. I mentioned nothing about disciplinary actions. These are assumptions you’re making all on your own bud.

Here we go again....Jesus Christ. I’m using Chicago as an example because you brought it up. We can use any low income area plagued with gun violence.

Dude...actually...s--- my d-ck lmao. Your moral platitudes are soooooo tiring like holy s---. How do you have conversations with real people about anything when you’re so infatuated with being more morally righteous than the next person. It’s not just you btw...all lefties do this & it’s frustrating.