America is burning

Started by Kon, May 28, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. RetiredAccount
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Aug 29, 2020
    The funny thing is the entire Republican Party believes this sentiment without the irony
     
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  2. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 29, 2020
    And this piece of s--- deserves to be put away for life no argument here
     
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  3. JMG
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    Yes and that's horrible and we need to find better ways to combat it. Making it about race and turning our cities to 3rd world war zones is not the way. Its counter productive. It puts more POC in danger like David Dorn. If a doctor butched a surgery then you wouldn't ask to defund them or make them targets/k--- them. Most conservatives are not opposed to police reform but will not stand for anarchy. A country will not survive without law and order. Just take a look at the CHAZ experiment.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Aug 29, 2020
    the police k--- tons of white people every year—more than non-white people by pure volume—but black people (and latinos, and indigenous people) are killed at a higher rate, just as they’re indicted and convicted at a higher rate than white people for comparable crimes, just as they receive, on average, longer prison sentences. so in that sense it is about race.
     
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  5. Kon
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    Kon

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    group of Trump supporters went into Portland tonight to counter the BLM protests, someone already died..






    holy s--- at all this, wow..scary times.
     
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Aug 30, 2020
    i don't think you read my post.
    in the eye of the law, they'd be validated
    ...you also neglected the excessive force comment... my post was 2 sentences, man.
     
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  7. lil uzi vert stan
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    Aug 30, 2020
    Lol yeah man. Not about to fully wade in again but like, this is the issue with these emotional partisan charged movements. Ofc he shouldn’t have been shot seven times or paralyzed but that said IF if if he was reaching for a knife that’s a big wrinkle to the story. But instead folks always wanna moral soapbox and scream racist or whatever. It gets played and that instinct is tbh partly what has empowered trump to this pt. We need to be thoughtful.
     
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  8. Michael Myers
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    Aug 30, 2020
    Nobody cares bro if a cop w a family gets shot its his own choice and fine but if a criminal gets shot its a victim I guess. Totally lost w the logic of some people here ...
     
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  9. Kon
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    Kon

    Aug 30, 2020
    I think I was reading the post as if it was his opinion of the situation, not his opinion of whether the cop would get away with it..If so my bad.

    or maybe i'm still confused, i dunno..
     
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  10. Michael Myers
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    Its not weird to be confused. I am too on these subjects. I get that there are terrible racist things happening but that doesnt mean its always like that. Worst is people who give their opinion not knowing both sides or chosing to ignore one on purpose.
     
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  11. Kon
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    Kon

    Aug 30, 2020
    I meant confused about what he meant in his post, I'm not confused bout how to feel about everything going on in America.

    anyways we're getting very close to a civil war, feel like Portland last night might've been the spark to it..
     
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  12. Michael Myers
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    I agree. Both sides fighting fire w fire so its going nowhere w just a lot of blood, tragedy and pain.
     
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  13. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Aug 30, 2020
    do you think if we removed race as an element it would be any less troubling that when three officers are on a scene trying to control one suspect they still fire seven shots into someone’s back near children? i understand what you’re saying to an extent but where you’re advocating a step back from the culture-war elements of this, i think you’re actually reenforcing them. let’s say this wasn’t racist per se—it’d be no less troubling that this is how the police react to these situations.
     
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    Aug 30, 2020
    so he didn't have a knife on him originally?

    I'm not disagreeing with the rest of what you said though. The media is the worst hype man ever. They left out all the charges and other information about this guy.
     
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    @Donkey Kong Cuntry how dare you like his post, you were a registered republican until a few weeks ago.

    I mean we are both right to an extent. (It’s just as always I have the big picture in mind heh.) Like I agree, police must have discretion and maybe fleeing felon laws or protocols should be changed. (To me it’s a shot in the leg, not One Officer unloading seven in the back.) certainly acted too hastily and too quickly. But no I’m not “reenforcing” anything lol wat - if anything your proving mmmmmy political point about how woke finger pointing cont to show diminishing returns. The “~~racism!!” charge was effective for years/decades, usually or generally for good cause but the rise of this president among other things demonstrates how little it matters increasingly. Sad but true
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Aug 30, 2020
    when i say reenforcing i really just mean you’re seeing it through that prism—my point is that our diagnoses of what’s going on shouldn’t be subject to, like, hoping we don’t rile up the trump folks too much. you might disagree but i think it’s naive to imagine that if we only reach some threshold of nuance and thoughtfulness that the other side will meet us halfway and work in good faith to change things. people are hailing that kid as a hero!
     
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    Nah I’m not advocating for Dems behaving in a knee jerk way that doesn’t intentionally provoke MAGA (though I could argue they kinda already react in a way design mostly to outrage and shock on its own not problem solve...) I think being conscientious about facts/context and choosing our moments would reduce the oppositions ability to play what aboutism.

    And yes it’s sickening seeing that kid be hailed as anything. No words. But the progressive/activist base doesn’t get to own the disgust card on that either.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    i promise i’m not being obtuse... i actually don’t know what u mean
     
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    Aug 30, 2020
    He is making fun of Enigma's logic I guess.
     
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