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Started by Kon, May 28, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Oldboy
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    Oldboy

    May 29, 2020
    I think he means “how can u be unaware of all of this”
     
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    May 29, 2020
    i don’t think you are pro police brutality and I’m sorry if it came off that way Mike. I was honestly just wondering how you can love a song that’s all about standing up to police brutality and criticize the response afterwards. Ang I’m not being facetious here I genuinely am curious how you reconcile those views.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 29, 2020
    kind of confused by how this is an "online echo chamber" lol most people i know who follow politics have considered her a frontrunner for weeks––she's a midwestern, female senator who delivered her state's primary to biden, who was nowhere near the lead before she dropped out. i would be absolutely shocked if she were lower than third in the vp running, and more like two or one.
     
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  4. Oldboy
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    Oldboy

    May 29, 2020
    1- u can be against police abuse and againt the method of response
    2- u can be nazi lover and enjoy black music
     
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  5. Kon
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    not 100% sure if legit though..
     
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  6. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    oh please im not citing cases from 5000 years ago, maybe 50 years ago. and theres plenty of peaceful examples they just arent dramatic and fun for you. you're saying Never, not the case. pick and choose what 'counts' at ur own peril. and i wish you would extend recent politicization/online influence to your own thinking. trump levels of irony.

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    did they torch hollywood and i missed it? like ffs stonewall is a far cry from mass anarchy its v revealing you choose to not see a difference. again v online brain

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    again, im not naive to say these are pure moments in time and ofc opponents cast mud. (king was a communist sympathizer who cheated on his wife blah blah.) but he wasnt leading a violent mob lol. f---ing THINK

    ? so the only resort - despite the numerous counter examples i just gave - is to wildly ransack a city lol. dude, come the f--- on. you don't know history enough to wade in, and what you do know is rife with misinformation and selective reading.


    yeah you dont see it. youre too entrenched.

    most people in ur orbit are flat out wrong, dude. terrible political instincts. activists and advocates. you know my connections to biden world take me as gospel.

    ? im telling you no. was not the case. thicc
     
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    May 29, 2020
    1, the song is specifically about combatting police brutality with that specific method of protest (looting rioting, fighting back by any means)
    2. Yes you could, but that would be hypocritical, confusing, and ingenuine
    2a. The song isn’t like a random song with one bar about responding to police, it’s the whole basis of the song it would be like a Nazi bumping a song about killing nazis.
     
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  8. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    May 29, 2020
    Like I said earlier, I'm not saying that you or anyone speaking out against the riots are doing so because you agree with what the cops did—but it goes back to the priorities thing. Cuz I've never seen most of the people in this thread passionately arguing against police violence and racism like they do against looting Target. It's just sad to me that people's initial reaction is to condemn the riots instead of to condemn the murder and racism.

    Also, now that you and @Koolo are talking about 'vibes,' I don't wanna hear you guys talk about bad ever lyrics bringing down music again :emoji_wink:

    I understand what you're getting at, but...the vast majority of Kanye's career he spoke out against racism, police brutality, the prison industrial complex, etc. and I was a Kanye fan for 15 years before that. Dre's been consistent with his views throughout his entire career so no matter where you jumped in you'd be met with the same politics.

    Kanye's two worst albums came after the Trump pivot and I don't listen to those anyway. And even if I did listen to them, comparing the politics of Straight Outta Compton to ye is honestly laughable. NWA's political views are coherent and intrinsic to the record. Kanye's political views don't form any sort of coherent worldview on ye besides "I should be able to do whatever I want" and "i discovered women are people when Nori was born."
     
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

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    If she wasn't top 3 who is? Whitmer is out. Amy is toast. He humiliated Stacey Abrams on MSNBC and when he said he'll appoint a black female to the Supreme Court I thought he was essentially softening the blow of not picking a POC female for VP.

    Is there anybody outside of Warren?
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    there's only 28 page threads about the police murdering someone with excessive force when autozone gets vandalized in the aftermath
     
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  11. Oldboy
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    Jesus h Christ
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 29, 2020
    ok this is all very nice and snippy but nothing you said disproves my point, lol

    1. this is moving the goalposts: my point, which you were "responding" to, was that no form of meaningful protest, "violent" or not, is universally acceptable in its time. go read the coverage of stonewall in the voice and then read the coverage everywhere else.
    2. it is telling that you choose to see what's happening in minneapolis as "mass anarchy" and not a perfectly rational, organized effort to respond to something, which it plainly is.

    i wish you would challenge what i'm saying here, but honestly you just don't know history enough to wade in, and what you do know is rife with misinformation and selective reading.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    *not even by a protester
     
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    Dude will be killed most likely tonight
     
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  15. lil uzi vert stan
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    i think Harris is viable. and IDK man I think post "Aint Black"gate it would be odd if he didnt choose a woman of color. Warren would apparently be acceptable bc according to polling this week her support w black and hispanic voters is stronger than every other considered candidate.

    Then again - it could be like Demmings. or the ATL mayor. I guess those are currently my top four, based mostly off my gut.
     
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    your point keeps shifting! which you implicitly acknowledge below (ofc, accusing me of the same lmao)
    no. slippery wording. youre using homophobia in the 60s to defend people of all colors storming a target. stupid tbh. stay focused.

    how so?

    i have been, and will. you should self reflect on my points instead of digging in. is this what u were like in HS when ur parents told u to do ur homework?! [xxxx] is right youre IMPOSSIBLE.
     
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  17. Kon
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    confirmed now.

     
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    May 29, 2020
    They shouldn’t stop until the other three are arrested too
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    lol no, my point is that your criticism of the minneapolis protests––which mischaracterizes them on its face––misses the fact that there is no broadly acceptable way to protest in america. let's walk and chew gum at the same time here!!!!
    you're using people looting a department store during an economic depression to hem and haw and equivocate about how this police department keeps murdering peoples' friends and neighbors. it's nice that you have this mushy ideological morass to sink into, but my point is still that there is no outlet for an angry person to seek change, or justice, without their expression being:

    1. decried as too violent or radical
    2. escalated by the cops

    you keep saying that there are ways they could protest that would be more morally acceptable to you, but... what are they? when people peacefully assembled outside a different precinct in 2015, they were nearly murdered. when people speak during public comment at city council meetings, nothing happens. when people vote out one pro-cop mayor, the new, "liberal" one ups the police budget. there are no alternatives: you have to put on real, meaningful pressure to make anything happen.
    the protesters drove the cops out of a precinct and burned it down, do i really have to hold your hand thru this???

    you should reflect on my points––which are informed by accounts from protesters this week and from first- and second-hand knowledge of the police protests in mpls over the past six years––instead of digging in.
     
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    Big queen fan!
     
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