Serious Ariana Grande Concert Ends in Emergency Evacuation After Explosions Reported

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  1. bet
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    bet frank and thug saved my life.

    May 24, 2017
    Lol yeah posting some bs video that has nothing to do with the tragedy, plus trying to paint her in a negative light is definitely keeping it on track with the discussion.
     
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  2. eddie313
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    eddie313 The Funeral

    May 24, 2017
    Ok you win man
     
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  3. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 25, 2017
    I didn't blame anybody? I'm from the U.S. and happily blame our misguided reasons for destabilizing the middle east. Idk about actively funding ISIS. They seem to get a lot of bankroll from Saudi Arabia. The CIA funded all kinds of dumb s--- that bit us in the a---, but we usually tend to point the gun at somebody else when we're paying for the bullets. Don't mind Trump. He's just some r----- who won a popularity contest.

    Islam isn't the problem. There millions of peaceful Muslims. Islamophobia is a larger contributing factor given how it alienates those who will become radicalized. ISIS loves it when the west condemns Islam. They want the world to push all of the Muslims to their caliphate.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/24...nti-muslim-bigots-are-useful-idiots-for-isis/
     
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  4. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    May 25, 2017
    Kamikazees in ww2 were brave warriors who flew their planes into enemy ships and carriers rather than surrender or escape. Same goes for seppuku
     
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  5. Fitzy
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    Fitzy BeliGOAT

    May 25, 2017
    This isn't really true. Guerrilla Warfare was first documented by Sun Tzu's "The Art Of War" which was written, I believe in 600 BC? Granted, it wasn't called "Guerrilla" warfare until the 1800's, but the tactic has been used for a very long time.

    It was used vs the Roman Empire, Persian Empire, it was also used in the American Revolutionary War, the French Revolution and was used by North Koreans, Vietnamese and Iraqis,...It's really been utilized in any revolutionary war.

    I think what you're referring to is the use of suicide attacks, which were first used in, I believe World War I, my history is a little hazy on that. But, yeah, it was popularized in World War II by the Kamikaze pilots in Japan. Mainly, when warfare started involving explosives and flying objects.

    Guerrilla Warfare is basically the use of ambushes or sneak attacks.
     
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  6. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 25, 2017
    I said Japan popularized it, not discovered the tactic. WWII was the first war where planes were massively used. Seeing pilots crash their planes into huge warships and sinking them was very symbolic. I mean, the Japanese developed small units specifically to do this. Similar to how ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban etc. have created their own branch of military to conduct suicide bombings.
     
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  7. Fitzy
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    Fitzy BeliGOAT

    May 25, 2017
    Again, Guerrilla Warfare has ALWAYS been a popular strategy of war (you can find it almost in any time period, in any major conflict), but the addition of suicide attacks within the Guerrilla Warfare strategy was popularized in World War II (I believe the Chinese started using it in WWI though).

    So while I agree that suicide attacks were popularized in World War II, the use of Guerrilla Warfare, and the popularity of it's strategy, has been around for 2000 plus years.
     
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  8. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    May 25, 2017
    idk if I'm misunderstanding something but kamikaze doesn't = guerrilla warfare
     
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  9. Fitzy
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    Fitzy BeliGOAT

    May 25, 2017
    Actually @Enigma I just re-read your original post, and I noticed you said 'THESE Guerrilla Warfare tactics", and I thought you said "the" so my b.
     
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  10. Fitzy
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    Fitzy BeliGOAT

    May 25, 2017
    Yeah, it's a form of it.

    However, when I think of Guerrilla Warfare, I think more of the Roman/Persian Empire downfalls, the American/French Revolutions and the Korean/Vietnam War. Not really WWII's use of the Kamikaze pilots, but technically it's a form of it.
     
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  11. Fitzy
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    Fitzy BeliGOAT

    May 25, 2017
    Just to add, Kamikaze pilots are sort of a weird example to use because they weren't really sneak attacks/ambushes. Granted, the opposition of the Japanese didn't expect pilots to crash into them purposely, but it's really not Guerrilla Warfare. However, the suicide attack tactic was mainly born/popularized from it, so I guess it's a form of it.
     
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  12. Lucy
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    May 25, 2017
    you already live with that level of paranoia 'i need a gun incase governement'
    'i need a gun incase someone else has one.'
    also, great ad hominen non-argument, want to know how many islamic/ISIS/ISIL attacks have happened on Australian soil? none, because we have the harshest immigration laws in the world, and immigrants/refugees are constantly watched so these things dont happen and they havent. countless plots to commit acts of terror have been stopped, countless amounts of people have been raided and had ties to terrorist organisations, countless amounts of deportations etc. If you close all your doors to other people, nobody can get in and if nobody can get in, terrorists can't get in. like pretty simple s--- bud.
     
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  13. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 25, 2017
    I don't own a gun.

    You guys are also separated from the conflict by a gigantic body of water so I mean.... it's not like refugees can come knocking on Australia's front door like they do with European countries. Nonetheless, this argument has been used throughout history. During WWII it was "don't let the jews in, one of them could be a Nazi spy!" Same thing with the Japanese (or anyone Asian as of a matter of fact). There's always the side that loves to fear monger. As someone who lives in the U.S., refugees don't scare me. In the U.S. you have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than being killed by a refugee. I like my chances.
     
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    May 25, 2017
    In Case the government what
     
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  15. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    May 25, 2017
    you americans***

    Then could you please explain to me why I have seen them knocking on my front door?

    goes corrupt and wants to cuck american citizens, or whatever it says in the 2nd amendment
     
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    May 25, 2017
    Lol I don't think that's ever gonna happen, chiraq vs the US Government would be interesting tho
     
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  17. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    May 25, 2017
    theres footage from LA riots and when LA went into martial law and had us military on streets, the doco i watched had 2 ghetto ghouls in a lo-lo pull up next to a tank, where the driver stood up in the car and started yelling at the tank calling it a b---- n-----. wish they had a 5 sec clip of that on youtube
     
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  18. 1999
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    May 25, 2017
    that was like early 90's tho right
     
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  19. 1999
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    May 25, 2017
    I wonder what trump would do if he was in the same position
     
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  20. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    May 25, 2017
    ya
    trump tower would become military base
     
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