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Eminem Best Posts: Did Eminem restore his legacy with Kamikaze/Side A + B?

  1. Z Gangsta
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    Z Gangsta aka Music Anniversary Enjoyer

    Sep 29, 2022
    Just because something isnt as good as sslp, mmlp, tes, doesnt mean it’s not good
     
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  2. Koke
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    Sep 29, 2022
    Couldn't agree more. It's so bloody obvious
     
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  3. Ricky
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    Ricky FORUM PRIME WILL BE BACK

    Sep 29, 2022
    Yes
     
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  4. Wreckless
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    Wreckless

    Oct 10, 2022
    1999-2003 was his prime.

    Then there's 2004-2022.

    18 years of ups and downs but never coming close to that same level. Some would say he's been s--- for 18 years. That's tough
     
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  5. dna hits
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    dna hits

    Oct 8, 2022
    No. Eminem destroyed his legacy with the pop album recovery when he sold out. Revival was the nail in the coffin. You can’t revive a rap career after that piece of s---. No one relevant has talked about Eminem since. Every major hip hop channel covers zero Eminem news. He’s washed. Get over it Stan’s.
     
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  6. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Oct 4, 2022
    What's the source Bass Brothers teaching Em how to rap on beat? Not necessarily saying it isn't true just ever heard that before.

    I 100% agree with the rest tho, people are afraid to say anything to him to his detriment. But it's funny you mention Just Blaze cuz he infamously DID tell Em that stuff lol:

    https://www.hiphoplately.com/just-blaze-recalls-how-he-almost-ruined-his-relationship-with-eminem/
     
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  7. Ricky
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    Ricky FORUM PRIME WILL BE BACK

    Oct 4, 2022
    Raul & Luis Pesto

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  8. The Real Slim Shady
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    The Real Slim Shady

    Oct 2, 2022
    He’s came correct almost every time since he dropped Chloraseptic Remix.
     
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  9. jankland
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    jankland In My Cringe Arc.

    Sep 30, 2022
    You and Em both missed the making good music part which is a big part of the process
     
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  10. Michael Myers
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    Sep 29, 2022
    He got my faith back (after Revival) when he released Chloraseptic remix. That was a trip down memory lane f---
     
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  11. Ricky
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    Ricky FORUM PRIME WILL BE BACK

    Oct 4, 2022
    Look at this madman, just look

     
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  12. Wreckless
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    Wreckless

    Oct 4, 2022
    Em needs a more laid back approach as opposed to controlling every aspect of his music making.

    Dr. Dre and the Bass Brothers used to play that role but they are gone.
     
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  13. CSA
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    CSA Architect

    Sep 30, 2022
    Relapse was received pretty meh by many but that turned into a cult classic by many fans and Recovery was huge even though most of the fans don't f--- with it much, it probably earned him a whole new fanbase anyway. After that, fansdown movement began but at the time he already had a new fan base and fansdown movement was a bit over exaggurated from the beginning even for some older fans. BME was just okay for what it was suppossed to be. MMLP2 was fitting to be the sequel to MMLP maybe not quality wise but definitely fitting in terms of storylines etc. I wasn't really into it too much but it was received pretty well by critics. Some fans were dissapointed bc it had some popish music and hooks like Recovery and maybe production was a bit mixed and poppy than they were expecting. All the other features and compilation albums till Revival wouldn't really have that much of a importance or impact on his legacy anyway but sure he had some wack features and some of the worst music he had ever done in between 2014-2017 lmao.

    We all know how Revival was recieved by both fans and critics so Iwon't even get into that.

    So I definitely agree he wasn't even close to himself for some time when he first came back to the game in 09. He wasn't really great, it was kinda hit or miss for some time in between 09-13. But i wouldn't say he ruined his legacy at the time like some might suggest. 14-17 were like hiatus years except some side projects and Revival. So, I doubt anything in that era really made something for his legacy neither. Sure, it was bad because he was releasing very few stuff here and there and most of them were really worse than anything he did. So, the point is I'm not sure anything besides Revival really made a bad impact on his legacy for real. Kamikaze definitely restored the bad impact Revival had anyway. MTBMB was easily the best he has ever been since his comeback in 09.

    Eminem is in a strange place. When he is as good as he has ever been, most fans and critics basically say it was ok and definitely not as good as he was at his prime. No matter how good he would be today, nobody would really realize that.
     
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  14. Chuny
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    Chuny DuttyRock

    Sep 30, 2022
    Man, Michael was the artist that got sh---ed on by the media the most. They were even questioning some of his dance moves (like the crotch-grabbing), clothing style, etc. Eversince he bought The Beatles catalogue (among many others) he became one of the most powerful men in the music industry, it made him a target, they were out to get him. He went from being the sweet man and perfect boyfriend every father and mother wanted for their daughters to being a h----------, a pedophile, a man that didn't embrace his race, a weirdo, etc overnight. I have never seen anything quite like it. Not even Em. Not even close.

    Oh, there is. Everyday there's a new kid who's discovering MJ's artistry for the first time and becoming a new fan. I can assure you that.
     
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  15. Z Gangsta
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    Z Gangsta aka Music Anniversary Enjoyer

    Sep 29, 2022
    I like Kami and MTBMB alot
     
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  16. poopdogg
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    poopdogg Retired

    Sep 29, 2022
    Ok but its still not good though. Encore also wasn’t a classic but it still was a good eminem imo. Even relapse kinda. Everything after average at best for most of the hip hop fans
     
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  17. Guma
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    Guma

    Sep 29, 2022
    Definitely an uptick in quality, but they still surely are not on the same level as his good albums. Also he is old, out of touch and uninteresting anyway so he should just retire.
     
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  18. Koke
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    Koke

    Sep 29, 2022
    Recovery was his second peak but he had an AWFUL run afterwards, easily the worst of his career.

    Endless terrible features (remember fans down? ) BME, MMLP2, SHADY XV, that s-----y boxing movie soundtrack, then Revival. All awful projects give or take a few songs. He was at an all time low after Revival and I genuinely thought he'd fade into obscurity. People weren't listening to him, he wasn't interesting, wasn't charting, wasn't selling, looked like a penguin with weird beard and Kangol obsession etc.

    I don't rate Kami that highly and Side A/B definitely has its flaws but when you compare where he was from 2011-2017 he's restored some credibility to his discography imo.

    Still missing that final classic though (I don't think it will ever come, 2009/2010 was his best opportunity for that). A lot rests on his next album. It's always been 1 step forward 2 steps back and with his recent output and corny NFT s--- I'm quietly concerned that he'll f--- up again.
     
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