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  1. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Mar 22, 2021
    No, I completely understand that and I was never talking about a serial killer like Ted Bundy. I'm just saying that anyone who is convicted of murder is "guilty by undeniable proof" by definition because that's how our (flawed) system works. You need to be sure beyond reasonable doubt and I believe that literally 100% of the jury has to agree in most (all?) places here for serious crimes like murder. So that would mean that anyone convicted of murder would be treated the same no matter the nature of the crime and how good/bad the evidence was or how long the jury deliberated. We need that appeals process because people can get a lazy or bad or racist jury/judge/prosecutor/lawyer.
     
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  2. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Mar 22, 2021
    “people shouldn’t be allowed to appeal their convictions” is literally a fascist take
     
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  3. Worm
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    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Mar 22, 2021
    I don't think anyone is advocating putting someone to death if they accidentally killed a person. This is more for premeditated 100% proof killings. But again I think this decision should go to the victims families. It's nice that some of you think that if someone took a loved one from you that they should just do 20 years and they can go along living their life (because some murderers eventually get paroled) and you'd be fine with that. Personally I would want them to rot in jail for the rest of their life with no chance of parole, if that wasn't possible then I'd rather see them dead tbh
     
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  4. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Mar 22, 2021
    People seem to be more focused on revenge/avenge than prevention & rehabilitation.
     
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  5. M.I.C.
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    M.I.C.

    Mar 22, 2021
    Wait till u guys find out the sexual preferences of the people you trust to carry out these executions
     
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  6. Oldboy
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    Oldboy

    Mar 22, 2021
    Ofc they should execute ppl. But not with the current system

    there should be a redefining of “beyond reasonable doubt” to probably beyond any doubt. And for those ppl for sure they should be put down. Zero question

    ppl who f--- childern should be killed. With no hesitation...and not painless death, they should run a game show where winners win based on who could come up with the most painful way to k--- child rapiests. Im talking brutal brutal deaths. Zero doubts in my mind
     
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  7. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Mar 21, 2021
    But don't u think, like w really bad crimes, its better to let them rot in jail? Instead of getting off easy by getting killed
     
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  8. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 21, 2021
    It kind of is though because a death sentence isn’t necessary for justice. We don’t need to operate under this biblical “eye-for-an-eye” moral system. It’s been known for decades now that capital punishment doesn’t deter crime but it remains because a lot of people view it as a form of retribution. You commit a heinous crime, you die.
     
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  9. Alpha
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    Alpha Aأ

    Mar 20, 2021
    I totally get your point, valid point in fact. But it's not so much about revenge as much as it is about Justice. Yes, the system is nowhere near perfect due to how a lot of innocent people are wrongfully convicted or sentenced to death, but that's beside the point.

    Whether a killer or someone who caused way too much harm and damage to the point he/she deserves to be put down, is sentenced to death by the system or someone takes it upon themselves to go after such individuals and end their lives, there's no denying that Karma is real and what goes around comes around no matter how long it takes. You reap what you sow.
     
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  10. Soldier
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Mar 20, 2021
    https://innocenceproject.org/

    Although I have a woodchipper specifically for pedophiles, other than that, f--- capital punishment.
     
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  11. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    Mar 19, 2021
    Save the Children was most definitely a co-op with Qanon... their protest were 100% Qanoners as shown by all coverage of it... everyone that used #Savethechildren on my timelines also used the #wwg1wga hashtags.


    Cuties was definitely a naive program mistake by Netflix... just like Toddlers in Tiaras and Dance Moms and Honey Boo-Boo and all that other exploitive bs that TLC or whatever have cashed in on for redneck weirdos forever...
     
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  12. JMG
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    JMG

    Mar 19, 2021
    Schizophrenia episodes and molesting children is not the same thing. Making someones sexual attraction a mental disorder is a slippery slope.. Giving them a excuse is a slippery slope.. How many more pedos will act if they know people want to protect them? I mean you did go out of your way to make sure we used the right terms referring to them. Makes me think you don't think they should be locked up at all? Are you aware there is a large effort in normalizing pedophilia or making it a sexual orientation? You are close to that.
     
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  13. JMG
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    JMG

    Mar 19, 2021
    Well if we are taking big picture then no I don't support it because innocent people die. I watched a movie or show on this recently.. forgot the name but pretty sure it was based on true story of innocent dude put to death. Not talking about Green Mile but thats another great example. These stories make me against it in general.
    I think the argument has to be more specific though and it all depends on the situation.

    Also I think maybe a more harsh death sentence could deter crime. I am not surprised at current studies because these people don't wanna live anyway. I'm sure they don't mind an easy way out.

    Also I am proud of people being able to debate like adults so far.
     
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  14. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 19, 2021
    I don’t think it’s morally/ethically indefensible for certain crimes but in practice, yes, I oppose it. In general, I would like a criminal justice system that is far more focused on rehabilitation than punishment. The death penalty just seems inconsistent with that idea.

    I’ve even began to question my position on life imprisonment. Some studies show that 20-25 year max sentencing is really all that’s necessary to deter individuals from committing crimes. It largely has to do with age: if you’re convicted of armed robbery at 25, the chances of you committing that crime again at the age of 45-50 is very low. I’d need to see more data on this though to fully embrace it.
     
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  15. Mikey
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    Mikey

    Mar 19, 2021
    no,
    It would be great to see paedophile's killed.

    But you would have people trying to frame people to get them killed.
     
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  16. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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  17. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Mar 22, 2021
    actually I forgot I'm ok with the death penalty in this instance after hearing @DoCE's story
     
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  18. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Mar 22, 2021
    I'm really not trying to moralize here—there are people like child rapists and serial killers and war criminals who I think deserve to die. But I can think they deserve to die while also thinking that we shouldn't give the government the power to k--- anyone. I'd rather just lock them up for life than give the government any more legal outlets to murder people.

    I'm not worried about these people getting killed I'm worried about the death penalty being used against innocent people.
     
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  19. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Mar 22, 2021
    This kinda gets at my point—in theory, no one gets convicted of murder unless they are 100% proved to have murdered someone, but innocent people still get convicted and put on death row. It's hard to put caveats on "an eye for an eye" because people disagree on the semantics, and these semantics are gonna be used to k--- people who don't deserve it, and I don't want to give any chance to abuse this.

    You're right that it's definitely easy to say I'd be fine with it in theory when it hasn't happened to me (and the example I was using was for an unpremeditated murder)—I don't know how I would feel about the possibility of them getting paroled. I was more saying that I don't think killing them would make me feel better.
     
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  20. Boos
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    Boos Nova Nation

    Mar 22, 2021
    Does the punishment of death really prevent people from committing murder?

    like I’m not not killing people because I’m scared of the death penalty, I’m not killing people because it’s not the right thing to do and is completely immoral/horrifying.

    people who k--- people don’t have the compass or mental stability to think like that. And will k--- regardless
     
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