Politics Donald Trump supports water boarding

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  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Bruh.... It's torture lol. Putting someone under duress to obtain information is torture regardless if you think it's not bad. And again, I'll refer to the CIA report that concluded "advance interrogation" techniques to not work. Leon Panetta is one person. I'm referring to a report that looked into cases dating back over a decade.
     
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  2. theg
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    Torture is OK when you're torturing a known and proven terrorist. What's there to debate?
     
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    This mindset works with domestic prisoners in jail for things like drugs, violence or robbery or etc. There is no way you can reason with a terrorist. They operate on a completely different plane with normal people. It's like dealing with a different species of life. The best you can do is extract and debilitate. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.
     
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    their family back home might get upset :emoji_cry:
     
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    their family should have had a gene pool with less scumbags then :emoji_anguished:
     
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  6. MTY
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    MTY VERY SHALLOW LISTENING

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    f--- it, I've thought it over and I'll take both sides. Should we try to rehabilitate every terrorist? No, some obviously can't and won't cooperate. Should we torture them until they do? Eh... that depends. Should we water board them? No, that's been proven to not work. Should we throw them in solitary confinement? Still f----- up but I feel like that'll work better than waterboarding. Arguably putting them in solitary confinement will do them worse than waterboarding, so shouldn't you guys be all for that?

    Terrorists are obviously terrible people and should be treated with little to no respect. Whether or not we should torture them is a tricky subject because torturing them for information with the current methods we use don't work. However, I'd much rather hurt the ones that don't co-operate mentally than physically.
     
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    It's not his fault his parents raised him wrong, just let him do what he wants.
     
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  8. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    I see you keep saying "known and proven terrorist" but that's not reality. Like I said a while back, many individuals that are taken to military camps like Guantanamo are "suspected terrorist." They aren't given trials, lawyer or anything so we don't know if they're "known and proven terrorist." Secondly, even if they were, what's the point of torture if the procedure is proven to not work or be effective? What's the gain?
     
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    Let's stop right here and get this out of the way
    If your justice system finds someone guilty of terrorism, they're a known terrorist, otherwise you have no faith in the justice system of your country and you have no say in the matter.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Keep reading...

     
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    @Enigma and @MTY would make great lawyers for these terrorist.
     
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    MTY VERY SHALLOW LISTENING

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    Putting anyone in solitary confinement is f----- up. Do you know the mental ware-and-tare someone goes through in there? Solitary confinement would probably cause more damage to a person in the long-term than waterboarding them, so shouldn't you especially be all for it?
     
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  13. theg
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    Ok but is that outside of the justice system? Of course not, your country is deeming them as such a high thread that they aren't worthy of trials. If you think they're doing that on a whim to people they don't like then I might as well stop replying to you, your time is better suited polishing your tinfoil fedora
     
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    Do you know the mental wear and tear living in fear of being shot up at a random concert does to an ordinary citizen that has done no wrong?
     
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    Why are u trying to intergrate terrorists back into society
     
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    MTY VERY SHALLOW LISTENING

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    One of the goals of a terrorist is to incite fear. If you're afraid of going to a concert because a terrorist shot up one, guess what? The terrorists have already won.
     
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    Pretty f----- up we got people out there advocating for terrorists rights. #terroristlivesmatter coming soon.
     
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    Guess what, that's the point of what I said
     
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  19. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Nope. Like I said before the CIA obstracts individuals that are linked to terrorists. This idea that every person the U.S. Government grabs and puts in a military camp is 100% a terrorist simply isn't true.
     
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    For real though, this is f---ing insane. A few years ago liberals were an annoying itch. Now it's just f---ing insane.
     
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