Feb 14, 2017 I'm pretty sure they agreed to ignore that ending just like GT and the actual ending will be very different as a whole
Feb 14, 2017 That's what I'm saying, you don't know your s--- GT wasn't Toriyama's work, but they can't ignore the OG manga http://www.dragonballinsider.com/20...super-need-to-knows-commonly-asked-questions/
Feb 14, 2017 Ya okey don't eat me, however does that ending look like something possible after all the s--- that been down in super
Feb 14, 2017 Z is set before Super. everything in Super happens after Z. -The final 4 (maybe less) episodes of Z are retconned and no longer cannon, as they were there for GT's continuation. -fat majin buu pops out of kid buu or some s--- and turns good cause of Hercule. -Uub is semi-retconned (Goku mentions him in Super) but apart from that, Uub has not appeared in DBZ or Super yet, canonically. -Dragonball GT is retconned completely. -Super Saiyan 4 is retconned. A basic rundown would be >Kid buu is defeated, majin buu is good, the world has peace >they celebrate >battle of gods >6 months later Frieza revived or whatever comes back (the movie and very first few episodes of super) @Zeugma what the f--- is this 10 year time skip? all i can find is literally Ten years later, the planet Earth has been at total peace. No supernatural enemies have emerged ever since Buu, and the Z Fighters have gone their own ways, especially Goku, who does not even keep in contact with any of his older friends. Despite each humans memories of Majin Buu have been erased, the humans remember Mr. Satan for saving them from “something". Trunks, now 18-years-old, is flying a Capsule Corp aircraft over to Gohan and Videl's house, who had gotten married a few years earlier. Trunks, however, puts the aircraft back in its capsule, and instead flies to Gohan's house. Gohan is now a scholar, and has lived a happy life with his wife. As Trunks knocks on their house door (With their house being right next to Goku and Chi-Chi's), Gohan opens the door, greeting Trunks. Gohan and Trunks begin to have a conversation, reminiscing on old times. Trunks says he is looking for Goten. Gohan informs him that Goten is with their father and that Trunks' parents are visiting with Goku, something Trunks did not know. its just retconned. like, read it "No supernatural enemies have emerged ever since buu" so multi-universe gods aren't supernatural? Frieza Revived isn't super natural? I don't know why people think that "time skip" is apart of this... like what even happens in that "time skip" ? cause what i posted above is all i could find. Also notice how trunks is still a kid in super, not 18, so like super is literally 6 months after buu dies. They retconned the entire series of GT, but this manga clipping is cannon? nup.
Feb 14, 2017 wow no they were not there "for GT continuation", wtf man, Dragon Ball (the manga) is a manga created by Akira Toriyama that doesn't have any "real" sequel (even the Super manga isn't written or drawn by Toriyama), GT is a series produced by Toei to make money you don't what "canon" means. Toriyama's OG work is non canon and f---ing Super is? Really? GT was never considered canon by anyone serious
Feb 14, 2017 @Free agent @Zeugma was confused for a seocnd there. ok i just read manga's 517-518 that's literally the last 3-4 eps of DBZ. they are partially retconned. because 6 months after Buu is defeated, they fight frieza and go super saiyan god. but in this 10 year "time skip" where they have the tenkaichi tournament, they all s--- a--- and fight uub/buu but nobody then can attain super saiyan god. it's retconned guys. Goku mentions Uub in super though so instead of a complete retcon, it's more like the story is being re-told. the mangas different to the anime, that's how it's always been with every anime/manga ever.
Feb 14, 2017 Goku is such a f---ing idiot lol this Arc wouldn't be possible without him going full stupid requesting the tournament
Feb 14, 2017 like, literally the final 2 chapters of the manga, would not make any f---ing sense AFTER super. "oh we fought multi-dimensional tournaments and achieved super saiyan god. but for this tournament i'm fighting a human kid that's going to take over protection of the earth and we just wont go super saiyan god" like it literally says in the manga "after 10 years of peace and no supernatural beings" but that's completely wrong because 6 months (or however long) after Buu is defeated, they are fighting Frieza "no supernatural beings" contacted by the gods "no supernatural beings" visit multiple dimensions and meet the creator of the universe (or whatever the f---) "no supernatural beings" The manga and anime aren't going to be exactly the same. and it's always been like that for DBZ. for example, uub only fights goku in the manga because Goku calls him, his mother and his father "A s---" now obviously that can't appear in the anime, because that's racist as all f---. It's a minor change, but there's bigger changes all over and I think it's safe to say Toriyama would happily retcon 2 manga chapters to further add to the dragon ball series, with Super.
Feb 14, 2017 because Uub was mentioned by goku in super though, highly likely that "10 year time skip" will be in super, in some way, shape or form. but it will be marginally different.
Feb 14, 2017 Absolutely, but that makes Super incoherent and possibly non-canon, not the OG manga. And you're right about DBZ (the anime) being different from Dragon Ball (the manga), that is why the anime is mostly considered non-canon too, just like the characters Toei created for their films (Broly, Bojack, Garlic, C13, Janemba, etc)
Feb 14, 2017 mmm sorta disagree. if Toriyama has his hands in super, then he's approving of the changes, i'd assume. They could potentially use those final manga chapters/final DBZ episodes as a very rough "goal" to get to, ending the super arc. But it's literally 2 chapters of "lets fight in this tournament caus im goku and said so lol" "just kidding i only wanted to test uub's strength" "ok uub's earth's protector now" like if Super overwrites those 2 chapters, i really really wouldn't care at all. it's pretty much pick your cannon at this point because of Toriyma's approval imo. 1) DBZ ends with uub as the protector of the earth 2)DBZ ends with kid buu being defeated and DBS starts
Feb 14, 2017 @Zeugma this whole things f----- my brain, i'm reading now on the google the anime DBZ, Dragonball and GT are technically not cannon, but Super is, because Super is following the manga and isn't based off it like the other 3. my brains melting f--- this i'm just going with my head cannon, f--- the gooks!
Feb 14, 2017 problem with Super being canon (aside from it being incoherent, badly written and contradictory to the DB manga in many many ways) is that BoG/Revival of F is one version of Super, the Super anime is another, and the Super manga is yet another, and the three versions contradict each other.
Feb 14, 2017 f---ing wow lol. how convoluted do they want to make it? like i was literally just thinking "wait how does battle of gods + revival F fit into the series if they are cannon?" cause i literally thought that both were pretty much DBZ movies, unrelated to the actual story, but also showing off the story, but really not part of the story even though the events happen pretty much the same...? man f--- this im out lol. ill watch super but im going with head cannon f--- trying to understand this s--- lol
Feb 14, 2017 hahaha f---. read thru the last page me and zeugma got a little heated but i think we both came to the conclusion that cannon is a clusterfuck. I get what you mean/meant now though. just head cannon it up i think.
Feb 14, 2017 s--- is definitely a cluster f--- at times, ha. Way I've always seen things are Dragon Ball, Z, Super then the final episodes of Z after Buu. The latter will probably be retconned, which is a shame, but so far I'm still counting it as part of the timeline.
