Mar 12, 2016 Yeah my bad I missed the years after 216 lol. It has it's own wikia and is really interesting. It would be cool to re-introduce the saiyan race. I always thought it was strange Vegeta referring to himself as a prince when really he is king, but with only 1 other full saiyan and a few half bloods guess it isn't much to rule over. Vegeta ruling the planet would be awesome, though. I'm sure the Supreme Kai of Time is non canon. Just a new character from DBO and XV. But I agree it would be cool for her to be officially introduced and have Future Trunks back for a short time. Tapion is also non canon. All the movies are bar BoG and RF so we still don't know how Trunks got his sword in the future. We need a definitive answer in Super. Pikkon is also non canon lol which is a shame cause most non canon characters are pretty awesome. Android/Cell saga will always be my favourite saga. Maybe because I love Sci-Fi and it has that element or because it borrows heavily from The Terminator, either way those sagas are there's a reason why 2 very good fan films centres around those sagas
Mar 12, 2016 I am hoping Toriyama really does introduce the Saiyan race, since Vegeta wants to visit and Cabba agreed to it. That s--- has me hyped. I mean if Vegeta ruled over the planet, that would probably take him out of the picture and cast of mains. Don't think Toriyama will do that. I am hoping he take some f----- up risks for this series. He kind of did in DBZ. It seems DBO had some connections to Dragon Ball though which is interesting. Probably not canon though, sadly. Don't get me wrong, Toriyama is a creative man, but I have seen some excellent ideas and characters come from game companies and so on. I think so much could be done with them in the canon story line. I mean, Toriyama probably has OCD like h--- and won't take any ideas from games or companies. I wonder if he gives them the ideas for these games sometimes. There are a lot of non-canon stuff that should be introduced somehow. I know we can't bring in Tapion in a serious way or other characters, but I would like to see Supreme Kai of time or at least some serious ladder of these characters who run the entire system. Pikkon non canon makes me sad though. I think Frieza/Android/Cell are my favorites. It just seems that after the Saiyan/Raditz saga stuff, DBZ kicked up and became quite dark. I still remember being and all hyped and f----- up when I thought Goku died on Planet Namek with Frieza. You know that whole "Oh my god, the best character (at the time) died, he is such a good guy, so far away from home, what will happen, who knows he died" etc stuff. Same with Android and Cell saga. Just muffled screams and the fear of death was highly present in those sagas. I think I saw both of those fan films. One was released last year towards the end of the year if I remember.
Mar 12, 2016 @FreeAgent I don't know where you found the Cell-X stuff, but I found a Deviantart full of it. http://hector444.deviantart.com/gallery/39531319/Dragon-Ball-Online
Mar 13, 2016 Unless something major happens we know at the end of Z the Earth is still U7 and nothing major has changed, unless it has and is off-screen while we're watching the tournament. It is a shame DBO isn't manga. I like to think of it as a spiritual successor to DBZ that provides a lot of info about what could of happened. That's true. He helped a lot with character designs and it's a shame he didn't have them in the main story. Tora, Mira and Demigra are pretty great characters. DBXV could be adapted to a spin-off manga/series and make it canon within the series. It has a great story and would provide new what-ifs in the DB world. Bojack is another character. His storyline easily connects into the series and would of provided a great saga. Akira forgot all about SSJ3 and thought it was SSJ2 at one point so he defo has a lack of OCD haha. That plus he admits to forgetting a lot of things. Frieza saga is pretty great, but I felt it dragged on for too long and had many parts I didn't care about. It paid off in the end though but could've been cut down just a little for my taste. Androids/Cell was defo the darker saga. Seeing Cell literally s--- the life out of his victims would scar any kid. The UK had a live-action advert promoting the Cell Saga that featured a world in ruins, a man shouting the end is near and clothes everywhere from people having the life s----d out of them. As a kid that was dark as f---. Light of Hope episode 2 won't be long coming out. Fall of Man was pretty awesome too.
Mar 14, 2016 Oh right, the 10 years later thing after Uub was good enough and old enough to fight. Haven't watched the ending of Z in a while. Well, I mean, 18 years ago, I am sure Toriyama didn't have DBS in mind at all. Nor the Gods of Destruction etc. I mean, it is a possibility Champa could have taken Earth (pretend scenario here) and it was never mentioned (generally) in Z because those events had passed and they just moved on and accepted it. I dont know though, I just tried to watch some final episodes of Z though and it makes me wonder how Toriyama will play out the ending of DBS and make it play into the whole 10 years later thing in Z. I feel he kinda f----- himself a bit on trying to create something new and have it fit in with something old, especially when the idea didn't exist back then, like SSGSS and what not. When you rewatch the old Z episodes it is like SSGSS never existed. I am wondering if he will play into it that maybe that form got banned by the Gods or something. Who knows. I still need to really play DBXV. from you and others I keep hearing it is excellent. Bojack was an excellent movie, really, they could've done so much more with him. I wish Broly had more of a story too. He has always been my favorite character. LoH 2 is coming out soon? Oh s---. The fall of man was pretty great. It is hard though to take a series and make it live action in a sense. Seeing real humans turning Super Saiyan was always off putting, I don't know why. This isn't to say fan films s---, but the transforming thing always threw me off.
Mar 15, 2016 He did f--- himself over. A lot. I mean, I'm a huge DB fan and I'll enjoy whatever comes out canon or non-canon, but I really think it should of taken place after DBZ and not in the middle before the end. Like you said things could've happened and the events could of been accepted and moved away from, but Vegeta's daughter is nowhere close to being born (her and Pan are around the same age, maybe Pan is younger) Uub legitimately made Goku feel uneasy yet with the power of a God (unless he was holding back typical Goku) he wouldn't even be phased seeing as the power level of Uub is on the same level as Kid Buu and Goku is a freaking God now. I haven't played it in a while, but DBXV is really good. I've completed the main story but after that the rest are a chore to do (training with people, re-playing levels to unlock characters) Broly was a favourite for a long time (he's a f---ing tank in BoZ) but he grew old for me quickly. He's such a major threat that has hate for Goku ... because he cried next to him as a baby. LoH 2 and 3 are being filmed together if I'm not mistaken. The guy who played Gohan in episode 1 is unable to return so a new actor as stepped in.
Mar 15, 2016 Too bad Broly wasn't put in the actual DBZ storyline, imagine if he was returned from the dead & learned God mode, that'd be brutal
Mar 15, 2016 it'd be neat if there was a alternate broly / legendary super saiyan from universe 6 we get to see
Mar 15, 2016 Seriously f----- himself over. Like I mentioned before, it feels weird with that 10 year gap. I agree, he should've put it after Z. Uub could be present in DBS as well. Again, the whole idea of going to space, galaxies, universes and s--- and then returning back to DBZ like it was all a mirage or something actually makes me angry. I have a feeling he will just play the story out, they will have their God powers and then it will turn into Z like nothing ever happened. I mean the only options I see are that someone uses the Dragonballs or Universe Dragonballs to f--- some s--- up, ban something and have it play properly back into Z or Bills (beerus) or Whis kind of erase all these memories or something in the end. I am guessing GT is completely non-canon now. I like GT actually, but I don't think Akira ever liked the whole SSJ4 thing. I feel SSG surpasses that anyways. I forgot about Bura. Hmm. Step your game up Akira. You know though, I am thoroughly enjoying DBS, I feel in some aspects of story can surpass DBZ, or maybe they are just writing the stories well and I am feeling like a nostalgic child again. I need more time to sit on it. Well it was always Broly for me and I liked Omega Shenron's design and what not. Janemba was excellent too. I thoroughly enjoyed that movie. I know we are getting a new movie finally, I really want to see what he comes up with this time. We get a new actor for LOH 2 and 3? What? I liked the other guy too. I wonder why he didn't come back.
Mar 15, 2016 @FreeAgent Here is a good speculation based on plotholes and how to reintroduce DBS into Z.
Mar 15, 2016 @FreeAgent I just watched episode 288 and 289 and I've been thinking: Has it really been ten years? I heard Bulma bitching at Goku and he mentioned the last time he saw her was 5 years ago. I looked at Pan and there is no way she is 10 when going to the tournament. She looks 5/6 at best. But I also heard Krillin joke about "It will be another 10 years before we see you". So that threw me off. I saw Bura as well. But she looks a lot older than Pan. Not saying she is though. At the start of DBS pretty much Videl is prego and has Pan. but it is weird that (I assume) at the end of ep 288, Kid Buu was reincarnated into Uub, then at the tournament we see Uub. Can he really only be 10 years old at the tournament? It is weird because the age of Pan seems off now, unless she is just really f---ing small for a 10 year old. h---, Gohan, Trunks and Goten looked bigger at 7/8/9/10 years old.
Mar 15, 2016 @Zlitchufdux I'll reply back tomorrow, heading to bed. Give me a mention in case I forget lol
Mar 16, 2016 At least we got an Uub name drop lol even if he is a baby Erasing memories and making it like nothing happened would be such a let down. Between the animation (they can't always help it) the short RF saga It would drive many fans past breaking point. GT is defo non-canon now. It's pretty much been non-canon from the start and was more of a side story. Akira's drawing of SSJ4 is pretty great, though. DBS for me is sub-par. We really didn't need a rehash of the movies. The start of BoG saga was drawn out but the fight scenes (minus all the beam struggles) was top notch. RF saga while differing slightly from the movie was short and a let down. The Champa? Universe Tournament? saga is a step up. Be interesting to see how long it lasts seeing as DBS is 100 episodes (or rumoured to be). If this saga ends around episode 45 we have a boat load of episodes left... could the later half of DBS be after Z? Janemba was freaking awesome. The Shadow Dragons should defo be canon but give most of them much better designs.
Mar 16, 2016 Isn't she around 3/4? I'm pretty sure when she's up against a fighter she holds a couple of fingers up saying how old she is so the time frame of 5 years is pretty comfortable.
Mar 18, 2016 I'm curious to see how Cabba is going to be able to compete considering he/she has no tail and claims saiyans cant transform/doesnt know about a super saiyan
Mar 19, 2016 At the end of DBZ Gohan was stronger than super saiyan 3 with out powering up. That's why he never went lvl 3. So Cabs can be strong as s---, who knows.
