Jul 20, 2019You critics want to criticize but couldnt visualize
Individuals lives through a criminal's eyes
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Jul 20, 2019
Just listened again. How the f--- can anyone say he isn't flowing on this? Those few bars where he layers with the Gangstas Paradise line leading into the comparison section is pure head nodding.
Yes, he f---s it with the last few seconds with the rearranged beat that belongs in a Mario game and the double time flow but that's the only thing that's wrong with the verse.
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Jul 20, 2019
This is gonna be a long winder, all over the place post lol
Is the beat not the same as it was in the snippet? Sounded that way to me. I know that guy said he had a RIP mac line, but did he say the beat never changed? I'm sure EM does several versions of verses before he finalizes it. I say he prolly records it and sits with it for a few days and sees if he has any better ideas hit him.
I know alot of people seem to not like flow changes, but me personally I dont like when someone uses the same flow for an entire song, I like the switch ups. I also dont understand this repeated argument of " I cant bump this in the whip" that's strange to me. I feel like I cam vibe out to anything I like. If the pace, or flow switch ups disturb your vibe, I'm guessing you require a constant pace, or you dont enjoy technicality in lyrics or delivery. Maybe my ADHD is why I enjoy switch ups and intricate patterns and double or triple meanings, but the " I cant bump this in the car" thing is weird to me....as well as this notion of people saying they feel like people will make fun of them or judge them for listening to certain things. That's a pretty fragile spirt if you're concerned of ppl not agreeing to your taste in music or what you enjoy. ESP in a genre that for the most part was originally filled with originality and being yourself to showcase what made you unique as an individual and not if you could follow suit to another sound.
I think it's normal for artist who study this genre to pull from their idols and combine it with themselves. Kendrick is a good example of someone from recent years, that you can see certain traits of his idols he studied. Benny the butcher is another. He feels like biggie, the lox, pusha t style rolled into a buffalo cat. And with Em you can see alot of things he grabbed from, LL, treach, outsiders, and dre of course, so when I hear "I cant bump this in my car" it comes off to me as you're saying it's not the sound everyone is chasing. Maybe a travis Scott, melody driven, or over app mood music i guess. (I say travis bc I feel like alot of ppl are into his sound and chase his energy, which I f--- with travis, but I enjoy him more as a feature) BUT what I'm getting at is maybe I'm just older than alot of people on this forum, so I've seen older artist form into the legends they are and have seen them take their inspirations and mold them into their own. So I understand Em switching flows, f---ing with production to fit around his vocals so the track feels bigger, more epic, or unique to him, instead of him just rapping over the beat as it is. This guy lost alot of good years to drugs and all he loves is hip hop and writing. So when I see him doing this stuff I see someone who is obsessed and is a certified legend, but still hungry and still trying to grow his technical skill set. I felt like revival was prolly a 7.5 or 8 album. He started with walk on water speaking to his fans as a normal guy, hearing the comments and how hes overthinking, and that hes letting you in, past the facade, past the ego, past his normal stories of his family, hes letting you see his relationship between his work and how the genre is revieving it, and its troublesome to him bc it was always where he felt accepted, then he builds it up into believe and then spazzes on the original chloraseptic.
Me personally I'll take MMLP2 and kamikaze EM over his first 3 albums. I love his writing, and the layers of alot of his analogies, his usage of synonyms to connect the thoughts into the punchline, and how he has wordplay in just normal parts of bars that aren't the punchline. Alot of ppl have wordplay for the end of the bar, but guys like Jay and EM seamlessly do it in the beginning or middle and make it so subtle. " I got a couple of mansions, still I dont have any manners (manors)" idk, I've always enjoyed technicality and flow switches when its delivered right. And i feel like hes being hitting the mark for quite some time now, except for s--- like right for me lolol. But i can vibe to it, I feel like I'm studying it. I'm combing through to catch the wordplay, refrences, and analogies. I feel like if you want something to just zone out and not pay attention to, and just go solely for sound...why not just listen to instrumentals? The lyrics are what was supposed to set hip hop apart. You have more room to say things than any other genre and you have the chance to be wittier, unique, and be you, theirs no limits to what you can write, and I feel like artist and consumers arent taking advantage of any of that. -
Jul 19, 2019
Curious to hear the apparent demo version the guy who originally leaked the snippet has
The beat for his first few bars changed, and apparently he said RIP Mac Miller in it, and the track was longer. So part of it must’ve been re-recorded because of the leak. Apparently the guy said he’s thinking about leaking it now
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Jul 19, 2019
Compare me to the pistol that triggered this thought
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Jul 19, 2019
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Jul 19, 2019
The thing is, if i want the catchy ear pleasing music i hear stuff like this or hundreds of other songs :
But rap is so much more than that. EM give us his whole entire life story with his music. Nearly everything he went throu. That's why he has still so many fans out there. Because most of his storys are very personal and people can relate to it. Yeah, of course there're many rappers out there who do better music than him. So what? I don't listen to modern Eminem because i want songs to bump in the car. I have more than enough of those already. I want to hear his wordplay, his flow changes, his lyrics and all this stuff. Straight raw 5 minutes rapping like in "The Ringer" and his long Verses when the majority of "modern" rap artists barely reach the 3 minute mark with their songs. It's okay that he sounds kinda out of place with his music in this day and age.
And how many times must he repeat himself and say that he doesn't want to do the same things he already did back in 99-03?
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Jul 19, 2019
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Jul 19, 2019
Paul Rosenberg gotta listen to the fans and let the fans have boom bap Eminem on the next album.
Just some beats from Daringer, Sadhugold, The Alchemist, Statik Selektah. -
Jul 19, 2019
Spam M&M's comment sections asking him where tf these flows were since last decade?
That beat suited him like a glove and the switch up of the beats were fire too.
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Jul 16, 2019
we need another Straight from the vault esque leakDudley, Ids5621, THE LAST DANCE and 4 others like this. -
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Jul 16, 2019
That GoFundMe page from the Em subbreddit has raised $20 to buy the song lolDudley, CSA, IDKENGLISH and 4 others like this.