Eminem - MTBMB: Side B

Started by Xmipod, Aug 3, 2020, in Hall of Fame Add to Reading List

Is it dropping tonight?

Poll closed Dec 18, 2020.
  1. Yes

    80.2%
  2. No

    19.8%
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  1. joeyp363
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Kobe Bryant slayed that song. RIP
     
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  2. Snake12345
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Exactly!
    He no longer cares about making great music and songs, it’s all about rapping fast and bragging how good he is and rhyming words just for the sake of it.
     
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  3. Snake12345
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Wasn’t Kobe the basketball player!LMFAO
     
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  4. Marsh
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    Dec 18, 2020
    And dissing the haters.

    But... We get some gems in every album, and that's nice.
     
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  5. 23michael23
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Alfred's Theme and Book of Rhymes are close for me...Book has a better beat, but Alfred's has some funnier lines
     
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  6. PistolPistol
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    PistolPistol Inappropriate? So be it. I don't see it..

    Dec 18, 2020
    ..Since the Outsidaz cassette era ..Probably first Em fan on this entire site
     
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  7. joeyp363
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Yeah he sang the hook on that song. Wild to think about but he had a small music career as well.
     
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  8. Marsh
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    Talking to Myself is one of my favorite tracks from Recovery. I knew Kobe from a Fab song, and I didn't expect Em to work with him at all.

     
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  9. joeyp363
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    RIP
     
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  10. DontKnow
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Came here after a few plays. Can't believe he snapped like this.

    Fire Marshall

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  11. Marsh
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    I became a fan in 02 when he released TES, and it's crazy cause that was almost 20 years ago.
     
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  12. Snake12345
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    Dec 18, 2020
    No he didn’t!
    just like Em trolling you in to thinking this album is actually good!
     
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  13. TheRealEbonIvore
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Fan since SSLP and I’m about to finally bump this f---ing new album!! :emoji_imp:
     
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  14. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Dec 18, 2020
    Cudi just announced that he will release MOTM3 Deluxe next year. That's another chance to get an Em collab.
     
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  15. Worm
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    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Dec 18, 2020
    I liked this post. Hopefully that makes the negative post about him I liked even now
     
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  16. andy.cooper
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    Dec 18, 2020
    Grades:
    • Side B: A-
    • Side A: B-
    Might be an overly-generous grade, but this wildly exceeded my realistic expectations for an Eminem album in 2020.

    I don't think I'll be writing a long review of this at any point, so here's a handful of my first impressions:
    • The way Eminem slides in and out of flows and rhyme schemes is technically breathtaking and largely sounds quite good. Even the start-stop, "choppy" flow we used to loathe has been tweaked to somehow work.
    • The album is genuinely funny, largely in a self-deprecating manner (e.g., leafing through his notebook for filler lines, what rhymes with "pariah"?, mockingly using the Relapse accent). This evokes some of the very best Slim Shady material.
    • The production (bespoke beats with beat-switches) and guest hooks (which were evidently commissioned with the song theme in mind) are fantastic. No more off-the-shelf beats and hooks, please.
    • Higher is what Walk on Water should have been. Book of Rhymes is what Rap God should have been.
    • The album is uneven — some tracks (e.g., Alfred's Theme, Tone Deaf) become quite tedious.
    • The "cringe-worthy" lyrics and eye-rolling puns (there are plenty) are mostly buried in the middle of verses instead of being delivered with emphasis at the very end. I found these lyrics largely palatable or — at least — easily ignored.
    • Discombobulated is a classic, top-10 Eminem hook.
    • I suspect Em and Dre's current chemistry is responsible for a not-insignificant proportion of what made this album work. I'd bet that whoever acted as the editor-in-chief (Dre?) deserves a f---ing medal. Please, no more passive executive producers.

    Far from a perfect album, but I consider it a massive artistic accomplishment. I suspect that I'll listen to many of these tracks for years to come.

    P.S. — I disagree with the central thesis (i.e., how dare you criticize my work?) of most songs on Side B and of most of his work since Kamikaze. In fact, Side B paradoxically demonstrates that criticism of Eminem's post-hiatus work was completely justified; since little of his content has changed in the last ~10 years, we now know that Em could have made songs like these, but instead chose to make (and release) what now sounds like a collection of amateurish knock-offs.
     
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  17. Blaxmith802
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    Dec 18, 2020
    You kidding?
     
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  18. Snake12345
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    Dec 18, 2020


    This Em verse is 10 times better than the B side of MTBMB!
    God knows why he never uses Lloyd Banks they both fire together.
     
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  19. Michael Myers
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    Dec 18, 2020
    :khaled2:
     
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  20. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Dec 18, 2020
    Yeah, I saw some video of him shooting a music video a while ago. This one

     
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