Eminem - MTBMB: Side B

Started by Xmipod, Aug 3, 2020, in Hall of Fame Add to Reading List

Is it dropping tonight?

Poll closed Dec 18, 2020.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Chuny
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    Chuny DuttyRock

    Dec 22, 2020
    So...
    Yesterday, while I was listening to the album again I started thinking about this and I would like to know your thoughts.

    Clearly GNAT, FAVORITE b----, GUNS BLAZING, THESE DEMONS and ZEUS are new songs created sometime between February and November - They talk about the Pandemic, Police brutality/BlackLivesMatter/George Floyd, Cancel Culture trying to cancel Eminem after the Manchester Bombing line on Side A, Dre's divorce drama, Snoop Dogg's comment, etc which happened after MTBMB Side A. Even TONE DEAF makes references to KING VON who passed away like a month ago. So, VERY recent too!

    ALFRED'S THEME has a few references to the Pandemic but only during the intro (before I check the mic, I'll give it an extra swipe) - So I'm thinking either he re-recorded the intro to make it sound more actual, or that one is an entire new song too.

    So that leaves us with Black Magic, Book Of Rhymes, Higher, Killer, She Loves Me and Discombobulated - None of those songs have any samples referencing Alfred Hitchcock's original MTBMB project.

    So, my question is... do you think they never got the clearings of the samples Em mentioned in the interview with Crooked I? Perhaps there are more songs that will never see the light of day. Because a lot of the album sounds like it was created after the Side A.
     
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  2. joeyp363
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    Dec 22, 2020
    Very mid
     
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  3. joeyp363
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    Dec 22, 2020
    None of those songs ever got their samples cleared, this we’ll never hear them.
     
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  4. froboy6942
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    Dec 22, 2020
    Very curious where Em goes with his career after this year. BME, soundtracks, label compilations, or a break?? Maybe he will continue to drop solo albums. Who knows
     
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  5. Wreckless
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    Dec 22, 2020
    Chill out, bro.

    We know Em can do all sorts of lyrical gymastics. No need to stan over him.

    I never said Em wouldn't murder Snoop in a beef. I said the best lyricist doesn't always determine the winner.

    There's a lot of stuff Snoop could say about Em as well. Snoop was established long before Em made it. And he has a lot of friends in the business. He's been around Eminem, on tour, in the studio etc.. And i'm sure he'd have a lot to say about him as well.
     
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  6. Chuny
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    Chuny DuttyRock

    Dec 22, 2020
    What the f---?
     
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  7. joeyp363
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    Dec 22, 2020
    Eminem needs to collab with Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. Revive those 15 mins of fame for them.
     
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  8. Z Gangsta
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    Z Gangsta aka Music Anniversary Enjoyer

    Dec 22, 2020
    Please send me your thoughts. Im in a mental hospital after a psychosis yesterday, i drank some alcohol and took some pills and went off into the woods. Someone called emergency and the police and ambulance picked me up and drove me to the mental hospital. I just want to go home
     
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  9. joeyp363
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    Was this a verse on the album? I don’t recognize it...
     
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  10. J630
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    Dec 22, 2020
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    Glad that someone asked that question
     
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  11. Wreckless
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    Dec 22, 2020
    "Even more dangerous than the one on Kamikaze.
    Because he can k--- you calmly, or with that rapid flow and still sound amazing, and give you three different meanings in one sentence."


    Like relax, buddy. Having 3 different meanings in once sentence isn't necessarily better. If that one sentence the other person says hits closer to home and embarrasses you more. That's what I meant in my initial post.
     
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  12. Tracy Mcnewase
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    Tracy Mcnewase A better version of Gustavo

    Dec 22, 2020
    In the past, releasing a “deluxe version” of a successful album meant simply attaching its content with B-sides and live tracks to rejuvenate your sales, squeezing the kind of die-hard fans who will pay for any new release by your favorite artist. In 2020, however, hip hop significantly increased the level.

    Deluxe versions of albums previously released by DaBaby and Lil Baby came with what appeared to be new albums attached; the murder of rapper Pop Smoke in February did not stop his label from finding 15 new tracks to add to his debut album posthumously released a month after its release.

    Likewise, “Music To Be Murdered By - Side B” by Eminem has an hour of additional music to make it a fully realized work. It is one that shares the concern of his main album with Alfred Hitchcock - the late director appears in the introduction; Alfred's theme song is derived from Gounod's “Funeral March Of A Marionette”, which played while the credits rolled on the TV series “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” - and reacts to mixed reviews from its predecessor and the controversy it generated with the track “Unaccommodating,” which showed sensitive jokes about the Manchester Arena bombing. The latter provoked the condemnation of fans and the mayor of Manchester. Eminem's response is a classic sorry-only no: “I know that nothing about the Manchester bombing is funny,” he said in “Favorite b----,” before making a joke about the bombing of the Boston marathon.

    There is an argument that being upset because Eminem said something terrible on his new album is like being upset because the new AC / DC album shows a man dressed as a high school kid playing the guitar: that's the idea. In fact, AC / DC is an appropriate comparison. They are in the industry to give the public exactly what they’ve been waiting for for decades, which has been more or less Eminem’s default position since the 2010 “Recovery”. Donald Trump has provided a flash of fresh inspiration, perhaps because “da right ”didn’t look much different from a significant section of his 90’s fan base:“ the angry young white misanthrope who feels marginalized… with a sense of offense out of proportion to reality, ”as his biographer Anthony Bozza said.

    Eminem's contempt for the current state of hip hop, which inspired 2018's “Kamikaze”, offered listeners the curious spectacle of Slim Shady sounding like a middle-aged father, lamenting the music his children like. Other than that, it has been business as usual.

    And everything is normal here: it takes 52 seconds to get to the first letter about assaulting a woman and three minutes to get to the first letter about murdering her, complete with sound effects. Mumble-rap is attacked again in “Favorite b----,” 90s hip hop is sung, has an attack on rappers who use ghostwriters - bold, given Dr. Dre feature, the most famous user of ghostwriters in the business. There are the usual things about drugs and madness; there are jokes about Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. There is an explosion of support for the Black Lives Matter movement in “These Demons” and “Zeus” (“Blacks saved my life,” he says) and he continues to mention the coronavirus, particularly in “Gnat,” without having much to say about this in addition to comparing it.

    On the other hand, age has not diminished the rapper's surprising level of technical skill. If you've heard most of what he said before, it's still possible to be amazed at the way he says it - a relentless and breathless flood of word games, puns and complicated internal rhymes, uttered in a voice that gains intensity as the tracks continue.

    The music is less interesting than its predecessor: the best thing here must be the choppy bass of “Guns Blazing” and the drums programmed to sound like a succession of gunshots, but there's nothing to compare to the chaotically exciting noise of “You Gon 'Learn” by “Music To Be Murdered By.” Nor is there an unequivocal triumph along the lines of "Darkness," a brilliant representation of the 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas through the eyes of its author.

    The most interesting moments occur when Eminem faces his own artistic dilemma head-on, worrying that he is close to 50 - “I'm going to be a boring old man” - or protesting that people “want you to change, but it doesn't change… I want the new one, but old Shady. ” "What should I do knowing this?" he gets angry at "Higher." "Seriously, I have no idea." It feels like a moving moment of honesty and clarity. Then he goes back to Slim Shady mode and makes another joke about his testicles.
     
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  13. Chuny
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    The "relax", "calm down", "chill" are condescending as f---.
    I am relaxed. I am calmed. I am chilled. And I was just having a conversation with you on an Eminem forum, so we're both "stanning over it".
     
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  14. 23michael23
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    Those MC Hammer subliminals tho...:emoji_astonished: jk:emoji_wink:
     
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  15. Z Gangsta
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    Z Gangsta aka Music Anniversary Enjoyer

    Dec 22, 2020
    No it’s real. U would have thought maybe marshall III would be that guy but not me, oh well
     
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  16. copius inhaled farts
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    copius inhaled farts took out some ribs so i could sniff my bootyhole

    Dec 22, 2020
    repping my boi
     
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  17. Chuny
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    Chuny DuttyRock

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    "s-----y as MC Hammers"
    How is that a subliminal, bruh?
     
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  18. Tracy Mcnewase
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    Tracy Mcnewase A better version of Gustavo

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    you can’t cancel a man who so revels in juvenile humour and generating outrage. We’ll almost certainly be having this conversation in another 12 months. See you then!
     
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  19. Z Gangsta
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    Z Gangsta aka Music Anniversary Enjoyer

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    Snoop doesnt stand a chance
     
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  20. rapmusik
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    no there's more about the pandemic in the first verse, talks about spending a band on sanitizer and Lysol wipes. and it starts with "Music to be murdered by again".
     
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