Eminem - MTBMB: Side B

Started by Xmipod, Aug 3, 2020, in Hall of Fame Add to Reading List

Is it dropping tonight?

Poll closed Dec 18, 2020.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Ricky
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    Ricky FORUM PRIME WILL BE BACK

    Apr 28, 2021
    Kuniva had some great tracks, Swifty too, even Mr. Porter (post 2010 mostly). It's not like they're on let's say Rakim, Nas, Jay etc. level, but their solo stuff > D12 verses tbh





    but yeah, Kuniva >> any D12 rapper, not Proof tho, he was a beast
     
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  2. CARNIFEX
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    CARNIFEX Get The Strap

    Apr 28, 2021
    I've always hated a strong dislike for the song sonically and I hate how female songs are always his go to filler songs but I love the "I'm just a f---ing romantic I f---ing love you you f---ing b----" part
     
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  3. BlueWorldOrder
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    Apr 28, 2021
    The Funeral is what Curtain Call turned into right?
     
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  4. BlueWorldOrder
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    Apr 28, 2021
    He wasnt anything special but he was easily the best rapper after Em in d12.
     
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  5. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Apr 28, 2021
    Kendrick would obliterate Em on a serious topic lmao
     
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  6. jankland
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    jankland In My Cringe Arc.

    Apr 28, 2021
    Oh yeah that delivery is definitely one of best parts of the song
     
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  7. CARNIFEX
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    CARNIFEX Get The Strap

    Apr 28, 2021
    I feel like Em would definitely feel threatened by Kendrick which would mean Em would bring his a game and I'd hate to be that guy but when Em is in his zone and feels he has something to prove I think it would be a very hard thing to do. Kendrick would be actual competition but I don't think it would be an easy win on his end....if you ignore the people who will just say Em ruined the song before even hearing his part.
     
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  8. jankland
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    jankland In My Cringe Arc.

    Apr 28, 2021
    It depends on what they would talk about cause when em wants to really make a serious song he becomes a better writer by like tenfold lol
     
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  9. Ricky
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    Apr 28, 2021
    Easily
     
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  10. Ricky
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    Apr 28, 2021
    Darkness >>>

    But Kenny seems to be more serious overall so who knows
     
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  11. Jb27
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    Apr 28, 2021
    Yeah I’m definitely not saying kuniva spitting like the ppl you named. I just know kuniva and swifty aren’t trash like ppl make them out to be, and boy them Midwest marauders series takes me back. If you go back I would safe kuniva and swifty had some great verses on the d12 songs. I think for me growing up I was so focused on Eminem verse and didn’t care what the rest was doing.
     
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  12. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Apr 28, 2021
    In comparison to himself yeah but in comparison to Kendrick not a chance, there’s levels to this s---. This isn’t a syllable battle — serious topics require insight, knowledge, perception etc.

    Darkness is fantastic but what does it represent/conclude?

    What statement does it project into the art form?

    “Guns are bad mmkay?”

    Advocating for gun reform aka disarming the working class shows a complete lack of understanding & perception regardless of ideology.

    There’s a reason they’ve never attempted a socially conscious song, it just wouldn’t work.
     
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  13. Yeez
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    Yeez Yeez 5.0

    Apr 28, 2021
    Something I never liked about the D12 albums is how they never really used the split personality concept. Like at the end of s--- Can Happen em just shouts out the member's alter egos and they never come into play besides when em and bizarre are rapping.
     
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  14. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Apr 28, 2021
    Kanye made a great song with Kendrick. And every Game & Kendrick song was dope.

    Em just put him on the worst thing he could find.
     
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Apr 28, 2021
    A lot of people are happy with Love Game including me.
     
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  16. Yeez
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    Yeez Yeez 5.0

    Apr 29, 2021
    Love gane is the worst thing em could find? You need to listen to more music if you think love game is as bad as you think it is lol
     
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    Apr 29, 2021
    How
     
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  18. Marsh
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    It's a shame imo. Getting a lyrical rapper to do something so dumb. And dude even made sure he wrote the verse himself for this s--- lol
     
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  19. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

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    Worst thing he had for that album. a------ was already taken by Sky.
     
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  20. rockinwhiz
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    rockinwhiz Loaded

    Apr 29, 2021

    No sir.
    When I read about Tolstoy and Dostoevsky there's one thing that is apparent. Tolstoy is more of a sociologist, Dostoevsky more of a psychologist. Far as I can see, same thing applies to Kendrick and Eminem, respectively.

    Kendrick speaks on society, on black people's place in society. He speaks of society f---ing perfectly good people up. Because he has experienced that. He has seen that first hand. And since he has seen that, he has studied that. He knows more about that. His immense knowledge is clearly reflected in King Kunta, Blacker the Berry and to some extent, in pretty much all songs ending up on his albums.

    Eminem is a psychologist. Just because he cracks corny jokes doesn't cancel that fact out. He talks of people's minds, of what they are thinking. Older Eminem was great at this, sure. Has he studied that? Probably not. That gives him a totally different perspective of the bigger picture, without needing to know nuances. Renegade speaks on the media's mindset. Who knew is a reflection of what people thought of Em as --- a disgusting person tainting them. Stan is the psychology of a crazed out fan. So many more examples.

    Darkness never was about gun control. It was about a psychotic shooter's thoughts before the big crime. It was about drawing parallels between the shooter and a rapper. It was never a social commentary. Just because there is a seemingly political outro doesn't mean the song was for created for that purpose or with that intent. It is a nuanced, artistic song about an atypical subject.

    So... no. Kendrick wouldn't obliterate Em in serious topics. It would depend on the topic itself. Some topics Kendrick would have a clear edge, others, Em would k--- on.

    And this pose isn't by a crazed out stan sucking Em's d-ck. Only reason I wrote this was to counter Darkness slander. That is one of the few songs by "new Em' that gives me hope that someday I'll see an artistic, deep, storytelling project from Eminem that I'll call a masterpiece. And to defend that hope I'll defend Darkness using my d-ck as a dagger if needed.

    At the end of the day... this is just my opinion. Feel free to s--- on it.
     
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