Eminem - The Death of Slim Shady (OUT NOW!)

Started by RetiredAccount, Dec 6, 2020, in Eminem Add to Reading List

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  1. Justin Trudeau
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    Jul 13, 2024
    I'm not trying to sound like a d-ck rider but I think it was because slim shady had returned and didn't know that much lol that's kinda how I took it with all the Kaitlyn Jenner or whatever that freaks name is
     
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  2. rapmusik
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    Jul 13, 2024
    Some of these moments on this are so reminiscent to his early days it’s actually insane

    the whole Diddy and Cassie bit on Antichrist, the Columbine line on Lucifer, some of the layering on Fuel, the flow in GC2 when he’s talking about how he lost control of Shady, and Renaissance all come to mind
     
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  3. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Jul 13, 2024
    Yeah it’s outdated as part of the concept. Like he only attacks an old name & a piece of s--- too. He’s purposely running the joke into the ground & coming across as being totally uninspired because it’s not where he’s at now as an artist. Just like the overuse of Christopher Reeves too.
     
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  4. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Jul 13, 2024
    It’s funny that he may have actually delayed the album after all to add the Kendrick beef & P Diddy bars. A lot of really recent events scattered throughout this project.
     
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  5. lowkitz
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    Jul 13, 2024
    That would make sense. This is one of my personal favorite albums. It was more or less the last act of the album that brought down my review, not the parts we’re talking about. Like Relapse I think I can point out objectively this album has issues but it’s one of my favorites. Might be #4 now that I’ve sat with it a few days. Which is usually the opposite of what happens with Eminem albums I usually overhype them then they go down to their proper spots on my ranking. But this one is starting low and going up.
     
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  6. CapricornReligion
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    Jul 13, 2024
    Can’t believe some of y’all don’t like this album.

    I truly have no idea what y’all want.

    Lol
     
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  7. bobbyrobbo
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    Jul 13, 2024
    Really enjoying the album but I’ve updated my review to a 7 out of 10. I get that it’s going to piss some people off but as much as I think this album is consistently fire, it’s doesn’t come close to the big 3, Relapse, and Recovery. For now anyway.
     
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  8. Packman
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    I love the instrumentation at the beginning of All You Got (skit). Perfect segway from Evil into more of the conflict between Em and Slim. Almost dream like. This album gets better and better
     
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  9. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

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    Who doesn’t like the album?
     
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  10. lowkitz
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    If the final track of the album was GC2, this album would be a 9/10 for me, regardless of the lines I think are a little goofy.
     
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  11. Packman
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    Lyrics are out on Apple Music btw
     
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    WELCOME TO DEBATE CLUB.
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  13. CapricornReligion
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    Im looking through some of the pages. Seen a few not liking it

    Like, “Evil”, “Lucifer”, “Anti-Christ”, and “Fuel” are……. Insane. Like, if this is not what you want from him, I really don’t know what to tell you. Lol

    Not you that im replying to. Just saying.

    Dude sounded like he grabbed these verses from 2000

    Lol
     
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  14. DeathOfDeezNuts69
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    Jul 13, 2024
    Man. I don’t see how he can retire now but highly respect his decision. There’s 0 shame in walking away at 51 after you drop an album like this over 20 years later.

    The one thing Candace got right is that it would be sad for him to leave on a diss album, but I haven’t listened to the tracks after GC2 yet and probably wont get to them this weekend because I got to be in the right mindset.
     
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  15. Packman
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    Evil
    Lucifer
    Antichrist
    Fuel

    Name a better 4 song run on any Eminem album from Relapse on
     
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  16. lowkitz
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    Eminem - The Death of Slim Shady

    I am super conflicted when it comes to this album because while I really do love it there’s glaring issues with its execution. I am gonna do a track by track review so that I can articulate how I feel about every song as I go.

    Renaissance - 8/10
    Really good intro song, lot of nostalgia for that old voice and flow. I don’t think there’s anything crazy or special about the track to make me wanna listen to it outside of listening to the album front to back but it does it’s job well as a intro track, I do think something articulating that Slim is taking over would have done well for the story of the album. I also wish we could stop getting Joyner shout outs that guy stinks.

    Habits - 7/10
    The first of many songs that love sonically but suffers from a recurring problem with the album, cringe bars about Gen Z, trans people, and PC police that sound like Tom MacDonald ghost wrote them for Em. The reason the score is so high even though I just complained about lyrics, the most important part of a lyrical rap song, is that most of the song isn’t like that. The flows and production are great but it is ultimately held back by these weird lines, which on repeat listens of TDOSS are even more grating because he mentions Jenner on almost every song so I am so tired of hearing them by the time I listen again. Overall a good song but the start of one of the albums biggest problems.

    Trouble - No Ranking (Skit)

    good skit, not much else to say

    Brand New Dance - 9/10

    I will now dive into a tirade about why I enjoy this song that I don’t think anyone else has thought of. Brand New Dance is a 4 minute song (mostly) from 2004 that is solely about Christopher Reeves breaking is spine over an off-putting instrumental. I think most people just listened to this song and thought it was funny or whatever and moved on, but it kinda freaked me out a little bit to be honest. This song is from 2004 so there’s no way that any of this was made for commentary on todays youth or anything, but I think it works way better in 2024 than it would have 20 years ago. We live in a time where following trends and getting internet clout is the most important thing in the growing youths lives. Tik Tok, before it Vine, and even YouTube before that have given birth to alot of stupid, and sometimes dangerous trends that people will do for internet clout disregarding the safety of themselves and others around them. So when I listened to the song I was given this mental image of a huge trend where kids were setting up their phones and just breaking their spines in various waves over the song for internet likes. I have an over active imagination and I’m 100% sure that wasn’t the take away of the song but that’s how I interpreted it, and honestly I think viewing it in that light made me enjoy it more than I would have otherwise.

    Evil - 10/10
    This is classic Em. Solid hook, no cringe bars about Gen Z PC police midget trans women trying to k--- him or whatever. Just a classic.

    All You Got - No Ranking

    Good skit, not much else to say.

    Lucifer - 8/10

    I’d have to say review wise this song would be a cross between what I had to say about Habits and Evil, a great song, feels like classic Em, but with a few of those cringe bars that I complained about from Habits poking their head in again.

    Antichrist - 10/10
    Feel the same way about this song as I do about Evil, the cringe bars are kept to a minimum, and the hook is infectious.

    Fuel - 10/10
    Not much to say about this song other than it was just an amazing show from both rappers, definitely the b-----r of the album and there’s no competition.

    Road Rage - 4/10
    Great hook and production, verses are dog s--- Tom Macdonald bars Eminem found under a dumpster at Arby’s. I mean Jesus Christ this song is just someone’s drunk republican uncle at dinner rambling about fat people and how he definitely would NOT have sex with a trans woman, and if you think he’s transphobic for thinking that, f--- you. No one ever on the planet would have expected Eminem to have sex with a trans women, and aside from some radicals on Twitter, no one would think you’re transphobic for that. As a side note since Road Rage is a Slim Shady song, and Eminem and Slim have different beliefs, does that mean Eminem would f--- a trans women and coddle fat people? Something to think about. Waste of a good beat and hook.

    Houdini - 8/10
    Super fun single. Not much else to say.

    Breaking News - No Rating
    Another good skit

    Guilty Conscience 2 - 10/10
    Should’ve been the end of the album. Wraps the concept up so well, has a bunch of funny lines from Slim, and reinforces that Eminem doesn’t believe in what he’s said for the last 40 minutes and is making fun of you, himself, and everyone else. Everything after this makes the album lesser inherently by existing after this point, as this is the perfect closing track for TDOSS.

    Head Honcho - 5/10
    Ez Mil sucks. Ez Mil is on half of the song, and a good portion of Eminem’s verse is shouting out Ez Mil. f--- Ez Mil, should’ve been any other more deserving shady records artist (COUGH COUGH BOOGIE COUGH) instead. Sorry but he’s just super generic and I could find 20 of him in the comments of a FREE EMINEM TYPE BEAT YouTube video.

    Temporary - Not sure what to rate as this is something written directly to his daughter, with no sort of theming like Somebody Save Me

    Very personal song, I think Skylar sucks on it, and that it still doesn’t make sense on the concept album. I feel bad shi--ing on it or commenting on it at all since it’s something so personal but I’m gonna just say it doesn’t belong on this album.

    Bad One - 8/10
    This song is good and fits with the theme of the album. Eminem talks about how he uses slim to say s--- he wouldn’t normally say, and I think it is sonically great. I would however have moved it up to before GC2 and still ended the album with GC2

    Tobey - 7/10
    Okay song I have no strong feelings about it one way or another other than it shouldn’t exist after GC2.

    Guess Who’s Back - No Rating
    I’m not giving it a rating because it’s a skit but it’s a s-----y skit.

    Somebody Save Me - 7/10
    I initially didn’t like this song, and like the other songs post GC2, it again doesn’t belong here due to me feeling like it takes away from the concept part of a concept album but it’s a good song. Very similar to Castle/Arose but it stuck with the dark ending. I still can’t help but feel those songs did it better and that I’ve heard this before but that doesn’t take away from this being pretty good. Don’t care for Jelly Roll but he did an okay job.

    Overall - 9/10 if it ended with GC2, 6.8/10 since it didn’t.
    Last act of the album just held it back, I don’t feel good giving a concept album a high score when it fumbled the concept. I think maybe it should have been divided into Side A and B with 10-13 songs each between Slim and Em. I do love this album, there’s just a bunch of small problems that take away from it as a whole. This album has made me think about how even though I can give something criticism, and maybe even a lower score, doesn’t mean that whatever I’m criticizing can’t be one of my favorites. I would give MTBMB a better score on paper but I would place TDOSS above it in my rankings just because this album is a lot of fun and despite its flaws I do think it’s one of Eminem’s best.

    EDIT: Justin said something that made me realize I forgot to say somewhere in here that I didn’t have a big issue with what he was saying with the PC police gen z stuff, it was that he just kept making the same joke over and over again. There was so much more he could’ve made jokes about so it was kinda annoying to hear the same, not very clever jokes about Gen Z and the PC police be repeated. These lines overall don’t have much of an impact on my review, my biggest issue is the fumble of the end of the last quarter of the album.
     
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  17. lowkitz
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    I doubt he’s retiring. He would’ve made a goodbye song anc been marketed as EMINEMS FINAL ALBUM
     
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  18. Packman
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    Just did it. You'd have to go back to TES or Encore to get that strong of a 4 track run
     
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  19. DeathOfDeezNuts69
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    Yeah to me it keeps growing. Then I listen to a track on m2bmb and I’m like “Well s--- this is just as sick as TDOSS.” However, the flows and beats are next level on TDOSS, the bars and lyrics a bit more impactful at certain points.
     
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    Album gets.better each listen
     
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