Oct 10, 2017

no you are dumb and paranoid because you think russians have some kind of subversive control off the internet when they don't

 

Oct 10, 2017

Yea man, again... this topic was about Eminem lol. I hate this s--- where everything turns political. I can argue with a couple things u wrote that I disagree with or bring up liberals who have done way worse, but I am already becoming a huge hypocrite by saying I hate everything turning into politics and then having a political debate with you. lol. I appreciate you listening to what I have to say unlike so many idiots who posted in this thread who live in a bubble and cannot hear others opinions because they think their are the best.

 

Oct 10, 2017

Are you a hacker? Are you a social engineer? Do you even know how to use command line Linux?

You don't bother to even do a Google search. Just search "russia tech hacking".

Of course, the media is reporting it like crazy but I say this from first hand eyewitness experience.

 

Oct 10, 2017

OP, are you going to ignore that this is the same rapper who made an anti-Bush track in 2004? This is nothing new for him.

 

Oct 10, 2017

Worst part about it is that society and culture itself won't change because people don't want change.

Autistic people are the most discriminated against because "it's a condition where they aren't able to be normal". There's a group called "Autism Speaks" that advocate for the killing of autistic people just because it'll be a "hassle" for the parents.

We're the only people who can see things differently, therefore we're treated like complete f---ing morons.

A lot of things can be easily fixed. There should be reasonable regulation, a tax code that doesn't make the middle-class poor (as in tax the rich for possessions and an adjustable tax-rate based on income and give the poor more relief) and there should be more unification. The world would be a lot better if I didn't have to see Trump or politics or an ethnicity writing about how white people are bad.

Look at other countries, they do a lot better than the US but we're stuck with this f----- up society and I have to wonder why nobody does anything about it.

I want society and culture to be better, I hate this country and I really hate how it influences everything. Everybody should be held accountable and there should be no exploits that people can use in order to get ahead in life; the US is really about free speech, not this 2nd amendment rights bs.

We should really make it a fair and free country but nobody really cares or wants to do anything about it.

*sigh*

 

Oct 10, 2017

SMH at someone taking this personal, I guess my favorite rapper did f--- my girlfriend after all. f--- yeah.

 

Oct 10, 2017

Trump has turned everything about politics, and it's gonna get worse. he's more busy tweeting about the NFL than fixing the United States. He's a joke of a president.

 

Oct 10, 2017

I addressed political hip-hop in this thread already. Again, Mosh sounds aggressive if you just read the lyrics, but the point of the song is to come together for peace (against Bush's wars). He never told people to stop supporting him.

yea I pointed this issue out as something I hate that Trump is doing.

 

Oct 10, 2017

All of you p-----s saying f--- Em are going to be back on his d-ck again when his album drops next month

 

Oct 10, 2017

I'm outa here. Mods can delete this thread if they wish. I dont post on this site, I just browse for some hip hop news. The thread became very toxic very fast. I didn't get anyone to really keep the convo Eminem focused. I'll just end with my opinion one more time:

A man who made a career off of free speech and crazy thoughts just told everyone with differing opinions to stop listening to him. Also, a decathlon winner and male sports icon recently cut off his penis for a vagina. Bye!

 

Oct 10, 2017

Welcome to the internet. Everything can become toxic in an instant.

 

Oct 10, 2017

If memory serves me correct, there was non-stop protesting and rioting during the last three years of "Hope and Change" Barry from Honolulu's presidency as well.

 

Oct 11, 2017

well i'm coco you dumbfuck and you used to cape that I was the smartest on the site so

are you a hacker?
do you know anyone IRL that uses Kaspersky anti-virus software?
so you went to russia, witnessed someone go online, then start subverting the western world through hacking?

you are acting like Russia is some big boogeyman for hacking when in reality, their countries infrastructure means they are on average at a disadvantage to hacking, compared to the rest of the world. Not only that, but their internet is filtered and certain sites blocked etc etc, again putting them at another disadvantage on the world scale.

Also it's worth pointing out that NK's internet is supplied by a russian firm. wouldn't be too hard to trace a North Koreans IP back to Russia unintentionally.


also here is some statistics for you
Russia population: 143 million
russians with internet: 66%

USA population: 300 million
USA with internet: 70%

and again, you are acting as if Russia is some boogeyman of the internet, every country uses subversive tactics online, here's an article
from 5 years ago where Russian elections were hacked
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16032402

also here is some more strange articles
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...pts-to-change-regimes/?utm_term=.5b1a92ee7c6e
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...dling-doing-years-vladimir-putin-donald-trump
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2...han-century/okjziXPQDiegx53ABtpUOO/story.html

Now you know the Russian boogeyman is actually the USA, they've been doing it far more effective, longer and have more manpower behind them, compared to your Russian boogeymen. stop being paranoid now yeah?

 

Oct 11, 2017

has it been worse than what we are seeing now? Cause everyday there is a s--- storm involving Trump

 

Oct 11, 2017

I remember that all too well... My belief is that the right-wing cocked up a plan to cause divide amongst america by having "white police officers" k--- unarmed black people. #BlackLivesMatter was formed because of that and I'm beginning to realize that the plan was to have #BLM classify "white people" as "racists/sexists/bigots" while glossing over the police corruption issue.

After all. #BLM suggests that ONLY white police officers would do this. I mean black cops are innocent by definition right?

The police itself are corrupt and power hungry. Ice Cube even said this on N.W.A's song "f--- tha Police"...

"Black Police showing out for the White Cop".

Human's are flawed beings that are suspectable to corruption, greed and power. We may have different ethnicities and different genders/mental conditions but everybody is suspectable to the flaws. There's no exceptions, not even me.

 

Oct 11, 2017

Oh f---... I didn't know. Sorry... I thought you were somebody different.

Now I know.

I didn't go to Russia but I do read Ars Technica cause I have nothing better to do and I did see an article about it...

I didn't say it was a boogeyman. I just have the belief they're the most experienced when it comes to social engineering and hacking.

I never knew that; that itself is interesting...

I don't have a better response for this, it's just interesting how Russia manages to do s---.

I'm aware that other countries have cyber-espionage. The internet is one big exploitable battlefield that anybody can effectively alter for their own countries benefit and the worst part is the tools to exploit this are easily avaliable. I shouldn't be able to get an reddit upvoting service through Google, that is way too f----- up.

If the LA Times and WaPo weren't behind a paywall I would of read them sooner.

I know America has technology expertise. A lot of the world uses services like Google and Facebook and s---, I don't know of anything that does NOT run Android.

4% difference is meaningless. I'm talking about the people who know how to code, exploit and social engineer. A lot of people in the US don't care for coding compared to Russia who have managed to knock off US services to create their own. Yandex = Google and I'm pretty sure their's a Russian equivalent to Facebook but I can't remember it's name.

If the US were to encourage people to get into coding then we'd have hackers more capable than Russia but as it stands, we're not at that point yet. US can manipulate an election but they don't know how to manipulate people socially. Russia has experimented with social engineering, they did every trick in the book from targeting minorities and left wing issues to recent when they went after crazy right wing people.

For the US to succeed, they not only need to know how to code but to socially engineer. If they knew how to do that, the US wouldn't be fearing Russia right now.

Russia has the edge to me because of the social engineering. If the US learned that then they would be a stronger influencer hacking wise.

 

Oct 11, 2017

This thread is 3woke5me

 

Oct 11, 2017

Best thing about this is @WPG backing Eminem

 

Oct 11, 2017

no it's not, go and look at the statistics, compared to the population. actually nevermind you are showing cognitive dissonance so i'll do it for you.
also here is some statistics for you
Russia population: 143 million
russians with internet: 66%
population of russia with internet: 94 million


USA population: 300 million
USA with internet: 70%
population of USA with internet: 210 million

4% is not a small difference with these numbers. the 4% is a difference of over 100 million.

there is just... so much f---ing wrong in this that I don't know where to start.

People in US do know how to code dumb f---. @Loyalty, apparently you don't code??????????
AFAIK, USA offers coding as a class in some schools too - it's also a university subject?????????
Obama's "computer science for all" initiative that teaches young students how to code?????????
also if you're going to base these assumptions on Russia round Code being a cornerstone to their activities in "hacking" why are most of their hacks phishing scams, email scams, DDoS etc, that don't require coding expertise at all?

Social engineering? what do you mean by that? because it's literally just tricking people. in terms of internet, social engineering is things like creating an email that looks identical to a respected well-known company but they put a faulty link in it, in an attempt for the email reader to click it and they can then gain access to the email users files and other security breaches. (something achievable with 0 knowledge on code)

Also how do you quantify Russia being leaders of social engineering, when the USA's social engineering doesn't exist. that's not something you can factually back up, ever.

you aren't calling Russia a boogeyman, but i use that term because for whatever reason you've read some stories online that Russia is the leaders in the hacking world, when most of these "social engineering" "hacks"/scams online come from mainly Asian countries.


just stop.

 

Oct 11, 2017