Futbol/Soccer Football (Soccer) Discussion Thread

Started by Flacko, Nov 24, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Zebedee
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    lol @ posting propaganda every chance you get
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Sep 6, 2018
    That’s with every sport. Numbers will never be able to capture the full picture or context but that doesn’t mean they should be disregarded either. As technology advances so do statistics & exactly what we can numerically show. Argentina’s WC was ended by the eventual WC winners, a game which they were big underdogs & Messi has two assists in. The Roma game he played poorly, I agree, but so did the entire Barcelona squad.

    My question is, how much impact do these one or two games have? If you have a player that’s scoring more, assisting more & creating more chances but another player performed better in a “big game” (whatever that might mean), how do you quantify that? When it comes to individual performance, shouldn’t we favor consistency over a couple big games?
     
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  3. Michael Myers
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    So messi gonna win??? Lol

    Jk
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Sep 6, 2018
    I think I've been on record in here when it comes to this, which brings me back to these award ceremonies shape-shifting criterias. At times it was awarded for consistency & others for the zeitgeist of a team's success. It can go into further semantics but we've had two players that have warped that norm and put up such remarkable numbers that it blurs a lot of lines. I value consistency but football has always been about moments, which once again f---s over defenders since their work isn't valued enough. If it were up to me, Varane should be on the podium for both his club & international performances
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    This German team lacks flair & excitement, they're trying to impose stagnant possession and halfspace occupation without individuals that can ruin defensive schemes...they're playing like the old Germany lol.

    But an even bigger lol at Holland, losing to a Peru team composed of Liga MX players, come get your team @Michael Myers 3.0
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Which again is why metrics are the best way to go. Humans are imperfect. We tend to focus on the flashy players the most while others go unnoticed.
     
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  7. Fire Squad
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    Absolutely, like I mentioned above, I love to see expected goal rates and analytics to help bring further perspectives whether it's an individual player im following or how the match day went about. But it does come with the flaw of the eye test--I.e.--a team looks like they outperform the opposition but they still didn't get the result. It can split off into so many scenarios but that's the fun in it; it generates a healthy debate.
     
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    Alpha

    Sep 8, 2018
    England vs Spain right now.

    who's watching?
    @Fire Squad @Michael Myers 3.0
     
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  9. Michael Myers
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    Watching Johnny English on tv now lmao

    Tomorrow France vs Netherlands :emoji_sweat:
     
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  10. Michael Myers
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    Yo @Fire Squad @Wzzi watchin ?
    Holland doing great 2nd half
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    It's been a great game, as I was typing this Giroud just scored that sweet volley!
     
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  12. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

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    Yeah f---.. lol. Gr8 goal tho
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    You guys are a solid centre forward away from being able to compete for the Euros, Memphis can't do it all by himself
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    True lmao. We don't have one...
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    A bit unlucky that Wijnaldum didn't get that pk in the 1st half, looked like one to me. But France is just a tough team, solid across the board. Mbappe is special guys, have to reiterate it
     
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    Michael Myers Moderator

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    How big of an a--- kicking is PSV gonna get tonight lmao
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    Couldn't be a worse way to start a UCL campaign than a trip to Camp Nou lol. Naturally I hope for the upset, football is weird sometimes. You guys got a good chance to make it out.

    Liverpool-PSG is essentially a shooting contest and might go down to if a goalkeeper can actually pull off some crucial stops.
     
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  18. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

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    I mean... Inter, Barcelona, Tottenham. PSV is screwed and lucky to get a point.

    Ajax on the other hand... AEK, Benfica, Bayern.. a chance!
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    One thing PSV have going for them is form, Tottenham have been stagnant and Kane has not been healthy no matter how much he denies it. Inter have been disappointing so far, the new recruits haven't settled in to Spalletti's scheme yet. We need to see if the teams' fortune changes further down the road, it's a very tough group
     
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    Interesting group for starters!

    Ajax has to play AEK tomorrow but I'm in spain so cant go lol... got tickets for Ajax - Bayern and Benfica tho
     
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