Feb 5, 2016 how is this even a debate? In the 90"s Tupac and Biggie was still alive, Dre was actually doing stuff, Snoop was good for a little bit, Nas was killing it. Jay Z released his good albums. Em came in. Yeah we've had a bunch of classics in the 2000's but so many rapperss who was GOAT in the 90's feel off
Feb 5, 2016 ? but the golden age in hip hop doesn't refer to "the best era", it's literally a name for the late 80's/very early 90's when it was kicking off commercially.
Feb 5, 2016 The "golden age of hip-hop" was literally 80s to early 90s. That has nothing to do with quality. Comparing decades qualitatively is a huge task. How many of us here have even heard the same stuff from each decade? Likely none. How many of us agree what makes music "good"? Likely few. Me personally? The 90s>00s>80s, and that likely lines up with how much I've heard from each decade.
Feb 5, 2016 I grew up in a neighborhood & household of hip-hop heads so I would always be told stories of what the 90s were like, granted I can remember a bit of the music scene starting from like 99 or 2000 till now. I'll always have sentimental value towards anything that came out during 01-06 since that was pretty much my childhood from then on that's when I started discovering all the seminal projects from the 90s and what-not. Boring answer but as long as you keep an open-mind you would see that every era has it's good & bad.
Feb 5, 2016 Everyone thinks the "Golden age of X" is always 15-20 years ago. Nostalgia runs in cycles. In 2030, we'll think 2010s were the golden age of Hip Hop. Relevant article: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat...every_40_years_20_years_and_12_15_years_.html
Feb 5, 2016 Yeah and in 2025 we will say 2010s were the golden age of hip hop, and in 2040 it will be the 2020s
Feb 5, 2016 No chance we choose 2010s as a golden age because saturation has heavily weighed down any good projects. You have those once in a decade albums still (GKMC) but you also had 5,000,000 one hit wonders and a market where making similar music/music in trends is the norm. While a few top artists have done well enough to get the credit plenty of subpar artists are weighing them down with failure after a radio hit. Also the style change in rap will probably honestly do more bad then good.. Once these songs today aren't catchy anymore they'll be forgotten. On average artists who are big are putting far less content into their albums than those who came before them, setting themselves up to be afterthoughts in ten years
Feb 5, 2016 Having experienced the 90's and 2000's, there's no way the 2000's is a Golden Age. Granted, a lot of great albums and some classics were released in the 2000's, the 90's was more concise and there was less room for mediocrity, especially since it was so hard to even get a record deal and release a record. I think late 90's, early 2000's is when mediocre or average albums really started to become a thing. Recording equipment started to become more affordable and the balance between profit and artistry started to shift more towards profit. And 2010's is nowhere near a Golden Age. There are just too many rappers, too many average to below average albums. It's heavily saturated.
Feb 6, 2016 @Dirty F Yeah I'm still making music, it's just a long process, plus I'm old, so I got priorities lol. Inbox me though and we'll talk bro, I can hit you with my FB page if you want. @Tone Riggz I've told you this before, but I'm sincerely jealous of you, because you lived in the heart of that era, and even the mix tape age. I also think that there were less opportunities for "bad" artists to push through back then. Like I said, there wasn't so many avenues to reach large audiences, as there is now. You legit had to stand out, in your respective areas. I mean, nowadays you guys can hear any battle rap or freestyle that comes out, within seconds of it happening. Everyone has a phone that takes videos... New fans have zero idea how it was to hear about the myth of DMX vs Jay Z, and NEVER actually seeing the battle lol. Just a legend to most fans during that time. There just wasn't as many rappers, or outlets to hear things. I mean, even mixtapes and s---, you either had to have a direct link to NY, or live in NY for most of them. I was lucky to have a friend who was from NY, and I could hear 50 Cent as he was coming up and beefing with Sticky Fingaz or 50 Cent. If I didn't have that, I probably would've been completely ignorant to it. Or Children of the Corn, who I was a HUGE fan of. Nowadays, the new fans can go back, think it's outdated and judge the era, but it was larger than life. Artists now, even if they're talented, just don't appear that way. They're interviewed everywhere, they have videos and social media, they're interactive. I think there was a lot stiffer competition back then, because you HAD to stick out. It was so much more cut throat. Plus, like I said, when an album was great, it was such a big f---ing deal, and when it s----d? HUGE deal. We didn't have internet piracy until Napster, and even then, it wasn't easy to download albums, because it took FOREVER to do. s--- would take hours. That's why I hate Nastradamus so f---ing much, because I was excited to hear Nas, spent my allowance on it, and it s----d. To new fans? Sure, it's probably an OK album, but you didn't spend money on it, you heard it on YouTube or downloaded it for free lol.
Feb 6, 2016 This thread just made me realize The Eminem Show turns 15 next year. Jesus Christ I'm old.
