Sep 14, 2015 ... me: thugger has quantity over quality. you: by this logic, eminem is still a great artist explain your nonsense.
Sep 14, 2015 No? But he's had hits...stoner. Danny glover. Lifestyle. Hookah. About the money. With that
Sep 14, 2015 of course thugger songs in a thugger love thread are going to be well received... you serious? that's like taking a sampling size from an AA meeting and saying that most humans are alcoholics.
Sep 14, 2015 no you were implying that thug isn't a commercial success b/c he's actually not as good as I think, and I'm saying if being a commercial success is indicative of quality than em must be great. I didn't take ur post as meaning thug is inconsistent. Probably because he's not.
Sep 14, 2015 back to my initial non-troll question then: why do you think it is that thugger has yet to achieve commercial success?
Sep 14, 2015 you can't argue that there is a direct correlation with an artist having commercial success and them being liked by the masses and them putting out quality material... and since thugger has put out a shitload of material and is still struggling to gain momentum and have that mass-appeal and commercial success, then i naturally have to put the quality of his material into question.
Sep 14, 2015 if you're combing through soundscan reports and youtube data to which artists are worth listening to, that's on you.
Sep 14, 2015 that seems out of left field, but i'll entertain you with an response and say that i don't do any of that...do people actually do that, or are you being strange?
Sep 14, 2015 what i mean is that a highly experimental rapper's ability or inability to "catch on" (while he sits on a label that's mismanaging him) is hardly a comment on the quality of his work. is j cole better than kool keith?
Sep 15, 2015 if it doesn't speak to his quality, then it speaks to his intelligence. --and to be clear, i know nothing of thugger's intelligence, but based on your argument, then logically if i'm an experimental rapper and what i'm experimenting with isn't "catching on", then it either speaks to the quality of it (which you've quickly ruled out), or to the concept of the style that i'm experimenting with...and if that style isn't catching on, then something should change for me as an artist, else i'm beating a dead horse, right?
Sep 15, 2015 no, that's ridiculous. thug has tons of fans and is making plenty of money. just because he's not as big as drake doesn't mean he's in danger of not being a professional rapper. but being an experimental artist--and this is my point, which you missed last time--his output wouldn't be governed by how clear channel reacts to it. when you're this avant-garde but are a point of critical consensus, you're doing something right.
Sep 15, 2015 you're saying someone should stop making music because their style isn't accessible. you're being f---ing stupid.
Sep 15, 2015 i guess anyone whose ever f---ing made music that doesnt get radio play should stop "beating a dead horse" and f--- off
Sep 15, 2015 no? where did i say he should stop making music? you're responses are bordering not even warranting responses tonight. ...thugger can put out as many tracks as he d--- well pleases, and people like you will continue to s--- them up. but that doesn't equal commercial success and likely won't result in longevity in the game. if he wants to be a mediocre success and just do him and play to a niche market, then more power to him, but i highly doubt that's his goal.
