Jan 9, 2016 tbh, it's usually your solo album collection. its like Eminem lol, people will only mention sslp, mmlp, tes, encore, relapse, recovery & mmlp2... nobody really considers infinite and his demos to be parts of his catalog. Mixtapes do hold a lot of weight for these artists who fall in the "mixtapes > albums" category... Big Krit is the first to come to my mind.
Jan 9, 2016 That's the point i wanted to take, if we take out technical stuff we are taking out a huge part of what rap should care more about, along with flow, diversity and knowledge, Kanye's production is what really makes the albums, not the rhymes. The albums thing is debatable and you know that, and Kanye will always have been working on a higher level because he is older, that's why i don't think we should make this statements with incomplete careers (look at the stans and ask them how that goes), OD and KLEP are not albums. To be fair, NO ONE can be the GOAT, the GOATS are a group, and Kanye as well as Em are in it.
Jan 9, 2016 You are correct, by definition that is technically a flawless catalogue. But we're talking the greatest discographies of all time here. 3 albums simply isn't enough to earn a place in that discussion. Let him add a couple more projects (and deliver with them) before prematurely bringing him to a table he doesn't belong sitting at yet. Now as for OutKast on the other hand... Never dropped a bad project? Uh... Idlewild? What about the disappointment that was Speakerboxxx/ The Love Below? In there we witness a bundle of solo projects from both members of OutKast where neither were as good as they should've been. They have a great discography and made amazing music but it's far from flawless.
Jan 9, 2016 you're wrong. kanyes a great storyteller. he's a great at being emotive. he always know hows to express himself. he has a strong narrative. how you put together your rhymes is NOT a "huge part" of rapping. how you execute the rhyhmes is. And fine. Considering just s80 GKMC and TPAB. s80 - 8.5/10 GKMC - 8.8/10 TPAB - 8.3/10 TCD - 8.5/10 LR - 8.8/10 Graduation - 8/10 808s - 8.3/10 MBDTF - 9.5/10 Yeezus - 8.8/10 these are rough, but yeah, graduation might be the worst out of all of them. but its 8.2 vs 8.65. Kendrick shouldnt be in the same discussion as kanye
Jan 9, 2016 you're right about kendrick, it was just me being a fan and saying he could get there if he keeps dropping albums on that level. As for outkast, yeah i'd agree with idlewild not being that great, I give you that, but Speakerboxxx/The Love Below usually is praised as a classic, and the love below is basically the non rap version of take care, done better.
Jan 9, 2016 Stop it. I love both artists, I'm also a bigger kanye than Kendrick fan but there's no 8.65 vs 8.2, thats just you giving scores based on absolutely nothing. Nobody is gonna have the same ratings so that's pretty much pointless.
Jan 9, 2016 The Eminem Show > MMLP > MBDTF > SSLP = 808s > CD > LR > Graduation = Recovery > MMLP2 > Yeezus > Encore > Relapse idk if the new one can top the first two in this list but if it can top MBDTF, I'll be extremely pleased. still skeptical since Real Friends is the only song form the album that dropped so far that I'm really digging. All Day was cool but the rest was meh (minus wolves of course but I need that HQ) and yes I know yeezus is very low in this list but as I've always said, I've never been able to get into it. just a personal opinion.
Jan 9, 2016 S80: 8/10 gkmc: 9/10 tpab: 9.5/10 TCD - 9/10 LR - 9/10 Graduation - 6.5/10 808s - 8/10 MBDTF - 9.5/10 Yeezus - 6/10 8.8 vs 8 see how ridiculous this s--- is?
Jan 9, 2016 well the point of doing these isnt for every to state their numbers and sit on their laurels. its to state the numbers then discuss where we differ for example, your rating of yeezus and graduation are ridiculous
Jan 9, 2016 To me tpab & s80 are amazing and gkmc is between good and great. thanks for your opinion though
Jan 9, 2016 still stand by the fact though that there is no GOAT, because of how different every artist can be and how sounds change and evolve. we'll never know who the greatest to ever do it is in a genre that is evolving constantly.
Jan 9, 2016 im less worried about yeezus and more about you still thinking TES and MMLP are these incredible infallible albums
Jan 9, 2016 saw that new interview? he even said he wasn't confident enough to make gkmc like he wanted to
Jan 9, 2016 because I like it more? I think the production is better and I feel like kendrick was a better lyricist on it.
Jan 9, 2016 I just personally don't feel MBDTF is better than those two. If you do, that's cool. I mean, I'm not judging lol tbh it's hard to even rank them with how different they are.
