Is Jay Z the closest thing to an objective GOAT in hip hop?

Started by Big Dangerous, Nov 29, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Nov 29, 2017
    It's not.
     
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  2. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Nov 29, 2017
    Yes and yes
     
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    reesey What You Looking At This For?

    Nov 29, 2017
    Illmatic didn't have a lasting effect, after 7 day theory, there were 2pac alive rumors
     
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    Nov 29, 2017
     
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    Street Prophet my takes are 100% facts at all times

    Nov 29, 2017
    shhh were not supposed to tell them that!

    also Eternal Sunshine is a good movie, i think that the story's really unique. Probs one of the best Jim Carrey movies too
     
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    Street Prophet my takes are 100% facts at all times

    Nov 29, 2017
    I do agree 7 Day is better, I don't think this is a good argument for it however
     
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    reesey What You Looking At This For?

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    I don't really think we should have a Top 5 doa list
     
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    I support this. And also who gives a s--- if u 'studied' film. Yeah its cool u know more about it but doesnt make ur taste or w/e more important
     
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  9. TheReturn
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    Illmatic didn't have a lasting effect? It's impacting rappers till this very day from this era
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    are you f---ing kidding me
     
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    TimmyT Self-Taught

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    And if I ain't better than BIG, I'm the closest one

    :hov2:
     
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  12. Big Dangerous
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

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    People need to understand BIG only released two records but they're both debateable GOAT records.

    The amount of highs on LAD may be more than any other rap record ever...so don't give me that 'filler' bs. It's balanced out and more.
     
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  13. Big Dangerous
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

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    Very disrespectful line especially coming from Jay Imo
     
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    Jay is a better rapper than Big but Big died so it's hard to quantify how much Big would have improved
     
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    reesey What You Looking At This For?

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    Nobody from my generation wants to here that dusty a--- boom bap s---, in fact I think oldheads forced upon everyone this "essential" top 5 that has albums that have little impact, and have gotten worse with time because you know the 90's
     
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

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    I personally like 7 day theory better than Illmaic. It's my favorite Pac record but I will admit part of that is because it's posthumously released, in that the entire album is very eerie and dark, so it sort of enhances the album for me.
     
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    G-Herbo was influenced by Illmatic. But yeah, I get what ur saying. We dont wanna hear old s--- like that. Same way a lot of people don't rock with the 80s like that.
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Nov 29, 2017
    this mentality is just as bad as the dusthead mentality. you're also wrong, but I'm gonna give you a break since you were born after the blueprint came out.
     
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

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    I just want everyone to know I'm fairly certain @COLLEGROVE mention in another thread he's never listened to BIG's albums because he's young and doesn't listen to any old (90s) music. So there's no point in debating him he doesn't have enough experience in the genre
     
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    reesey What You Looking At This For?

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    I lied, I just don't feel like talking about old music
     
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