Feb 14, 2016

the 'or maybe' was because you called all of us "Dumb as f---", first off

Second, I'm not saying some of the tracks weren't in a finished state at some point, or that some of the abrasiveness of the album was intentional. I'm just saying that there were vocals and other points on the album that you could hear degradation in audio quality, but with everything that led up to this album with its release, its more likely that they didnt have time to iron out the creases and are now just gonna try to justify it as an artistic choice

 

Feb 14, 2016

i feel you, but you don't find even the "production and arrangements and song endings" although showing flashes of brilliance could be cleaner ? thats actually the secondary thing i was referring to as needing to be cleaned up (second after the lyrics)

like even that just doesn't feel true to kanye MBDTF and prior ... its so scatter brained, so much so it just doesn't bring about the same feels that it should ... like devil in a new dress guitar solo and stuff like that for example, just so clean and perfect ... whereas with the last 30 seconds of FSMH part 2 for example theres like 4 outro segments that play for like 10 seconds each and they just keep cutting, its just not smooth and for that reason doesn't have the same effect it should

like give me some examples of your favourite outros and production arrangement parts ?

 

Feb 14, 2016

but i definitely feel Highlights shoulda been the second song that wuda had a much better impact imo

that song just has a great uplifting feeling, it wuda been great coming right after ULB, wuda have set a great tone for the album being positive and then kind of being thrown a curveball later on before being redeemed at the end

Father Stretch shuda been good in that spot but it comes up short especially with each part only being 2 minutes long, its just too choppy that early in the album

 

Feb 14, 2016

Hopin the homie King Cole bless us this month

 

Feb 14, 2016

and with highlights coming second that means "I Love Kanye" shudda been third

that freestyle is great and shudda been earlier to make a greater impact

and then after that wood came famous and u wuda been thrown for a lil loop, going from "i miss the old kanye" thinking he will be less controversial but then he just goes to saying "i made that b---- famous"

 

Feb 14, 2016

I watched the game for sure. Got chills when he scored that header. Ozil that n----- forever. We gotta get it done this year. This was huge going forward especially with our upcoming schedule.

 

Feb 14, 2016

coleworld.

 

Feb 14, 2016

 

Feb 14, 2016

@Lockness was more on point with that experimental DJ Khaled comment than I ever realized. Kanye is a great conductor like Steve Jobs was. He knows how to bring things and people together to create a final product. I have zero problems with the production and guest spots on the album. I think it's wild and disjointed but I believe it's his intent and it kind of works.

Where this doesn't even compare with old Ye is when it comes to the pen game. Ye needs to get himself a Quentin Miller because his bars and songwriting are literally trash these days. The only bright spots from a writing standpoint were the songs we already heard. He just doesn't sound inspired as a writer anymore and I have no idea what he's trying to get across the whole album even though I know it's meant to be abstract.

This isn't album of life but it's cool with some incredible moments but the worst parts of this album are Ye verses and that s--- is unforgivable. I don't wanna hear about cringe lines from Cole anymore cause Kanye took the cake with this s---.

 

Feb 14, 2016

man i actually cooked up a full f---ing tracklist for y'all, and just like that the album becomes a true classic tbh

holy s--- foreal tho, i just turned a 17 song cluster f--- into a 13 song classic with 1 bonus, and i actually only cut Facts

y'all aint ready

kanye aint ready, smh this aint the album, cuda been a TRUE classic

@Mike Tyson is this the type of thing i shud post in the Kanye section or na ?

 

Feb 14, 2016

but the problem is i don't f--- with the order AT ALL like u just saw with my previous post

i feel there is no effort at seamless transitions whatsoever ... we'll see what you say/what u think when i post this tracklist i got going ...

but foreal i know we do this a lot with albums like change the tracklist ordering, like we did it a lot with CWTSS and born sinner/truly yours but i still listen to the albums the way they were released ...

BUT with this i will actually change the order and listen to it like this, thats how strongly i feel about the ordering being wrong

30 hours needs to be on the standard version imo, posting shortly

 

Feb 14, 2016

the only thing I'm having trouble with right now is figuring out where to put waves

 

Feb 14, 2016

1. ULB
2. Lowlights (bit shorter)/Highlights
3. I Love Kanye (YES this needs to be here, this s--- is great, has a better impact early in the album ... and then u are in for shock when u think he misses the old kanye who was humble, he ...)
4. Famous (after thinking u will get an old kanye, positive album u get "i made that b---- famous")
5. FML (kanye decided to f--- his life up by bringing back up the taylor thing, this has to b at the beginning of album also)
6. Freestyle 4 (although it shud have a different title and be a full song with a travis verse cause its a great song but too short)
7. Father Stretch My Hands (middle of the album where it shud be, turning point, not opener, I'm telling y'all wud have better impact)
8. Waves (coming after FSMH part 2, starts with kanye rapping like trap music)
9. Fade (this needs to be in the meat of the album, shame its on the "bonus disc")
10. Feedback (this has a better impact here too, just a little break before getting to the last emotional part of the album)
11. 30 Hours (this too should b on regular, especially with "Feat Andre 3000" - actually a very good transition after feedback believe it or not, we get back to the emotional last 3 songs in a great way)
12. Real Friends (please take away those ad-libs, they are unnecessary)
13. Wolves (please back to go version with Vic and Sia + Frank outro to end album)

Bonus:
1.NMPILA (not deserving to b on standard but a good bonus
if he wants can put Facts, All Day and Only One as well, but now it is more clear that these are bonuses

I just turned a 8 song cluster f--- into a clean concise certified 13 song classic, and all i did was change the order (and cut facts)

holy f--- how did i even do that

smh kanye really shud have thought through this tracklist cause it really cud been a classic like this

 

Feb 14, 2016

Are there any links out here? Dont wanna stream so ill download and listen and think its a--- like mbdtf then dunk that s--- into the recycle bin word to my dawg air gordon