J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Mike Tyson
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    Feb 14, 2016
    a year and an average label compilation by Ib later, we back :wow5:
     
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  2. Kold
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    Feb 14, 2016
    Again it's all about opinions but didn't you think Ye was 7 for 7 with Yeezus? Don't you think a version of this album you have is the best album you've ever heard? I'm just saying there's a precedent for Ye fans to say everything of his is flawless. I know CW:TSS was mediocre. BS lacked energy and could have been better even though I think it was solid. s--- like Folgers crystals that every body here was hyping up is cool but not album worthy to me. Cole only has 3 great projects. He needs way more outside production. Sometimes he needs to be more focused with his pen. That Wet Dreamz video was trash.

    I can go on and on. I can criticize Cole and state his faults while praising him. I have no problem doing that. Ye stans only do this very occasionally if ever. It's almost like a lot of them (Not everyone) are looking for a good justification for every musical output no matter how good or bad it truly is just because he's dropped classics and that's a problem. Some Ye stans literally live in a world where Ye could take a s--- and they'd clap calling him a genius.
     
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  3. reD10S
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    reD10S The real is back

    Feb 14, 2016
    Tbh, I don't think Kanye cares enough about Cole to take a shot at him. And in the grand scheme of thinks, it's true. Drake and Cole are like a little part of Kanye's bigger musical journey.
     
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  4. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    Feb 14, 2016
    lmao classic cruz post this has got to half truth half trolling

    first off u dissing @Faiz f--- outta here :yunggang:

    secondly u can't tell me every beat on FHD aint fire :srsguy:

    are we ready for a FHD vs TLOP discussion which is better ?? @Mike Tyson :khaled:
     
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  5. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    FHD > TLOP

    come at me

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  6. Bliss
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    Feb 14, 2016
    It's possible, but unless someone speaks on it, he's 100% involved. If it was the case, we would hear about it by now. DJ Mustard has tons of ghost producers, and I take back every praise for that fool I siad over the years on here. Would consider putting Metro in that s--- too, cause he's been f---ing everywhere, and it's humanly impossible to put in that much work, even though his beats are mostly trash nowadays cause he probably has someone who produces for him on the low. The point is, Kanye doesn't put that much music out, so there's no reason why he would let someone else do the work and take the credit for it.
     
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  7. Equis
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    Feb 14, 2016
    lyrics aren't top notched but they are going to be quotable
    like the

    i know they're n----s you wish you could unswallow
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    hands up, we just doing waht the cops told us
     
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  8. Lost Batarang
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    Feb 14, 2016
    I don't know. If he felt Whiz was dissing Kim by that kk tweet, he might have lingering resentment with some of the stuff Cole has said, especially about reality Tv people. He's pretty emotional so idk.
     
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  9. reD10S
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    When did people start doubting Kanye's producing. What kind of fuckery is this? :wtf2wtf:
     
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  10. Mike Tyson
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    I can give you a critical essay on all of the shortcomings on every Kanye project but here's a few points:
    LR: poor arrangements, too long.
    Grad: masterful attempt at a pop album, but it's still a pop-rap album
    Yeezus: sounds were too harsh, arrangement was off-putting
    TLOP: nothing redeeming from a writing perspective save a few tracks

    Also, the version I heard of WAVES is a completely different album, and that album is better than MBDTF. I mean, Pusha was commenting on a similar rendition of the album and his opinion > mine and yours, sorry.


    Also Yeezus, I won't cape for that album, but I do think it's great for a lot of reasons. It's the last universally acclaimed album before TPAB. You don't need to like it, I didn't even like it for a very long time. But yes, including Yeezus he's 7/7.
     
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  11. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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  12. reD10S
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    The reason I don't think it's a shot is because the statement is true for so many rappers other than Cole.
     
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  13. Mike Tyson
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    Not for a week at least, I don't even know how I feel about this album in this form yet.
     
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  14. GKBS
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    Feb 14, 2016
    *takes opportunity to drop thread link I made*
    https://forum.sectioneighty.com/so-what-is-jermaine-actually-dropping-this-month.t51811/
    Around halfway through the month now and still nothing from Cole released. Which means you can still vote here on what you think he may drop right here. :useyourhead:

    *waits for @Mike Tyson and/or @Cruz to make a clever Cole Diss reply to this*
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Criza Malone Hamilton
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    Criza Malone Hamilton Check the birthdate. n*gga you ain't Ric Flair

    Feb 14, 2016
    Seriously im not a kanye fan or hater but this s--- is great.

    I didnt like mdbtf w/e at all besides like 3 songs. This s--- already has 5 songs im tryingto choose for my fav.


    I listened to this on a 45min drive alone. I wonder if i woulda liked it as much off first listen if i was listening thru earphones
     
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  16. Kold
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    Feb 14, 2016
    Well it is what is. We not gonna agree on this and that's fine. And if we are doing the artists having opinions on albums greater than my opinions that can work for you but I don't care. Ye thinks Yeezus and 808s are better than MBDTF and Cole thinks FHD is his best project. I disagree with them both. So when Pusha says that I respect his opinion but it doesn't change how I feel.
     
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  17. Mike Tyson
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    I don't need you to change your opinion, I'm saying you're trying to sneak in shots at me for saying a version of this album is his best to date, and what I'm saying is that's a unanimous opinion amongst those who heard Waves. But that doesn't matter, because that's not the album we received so I don't even know why you brought that statement up.
     
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  18. Bliss
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    Inb4 Omen drops a secret project tonight and ethers Ye
     
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    Drake has writing credits on 30 hours ?

    sample or something? or he actually wrote ?
     
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  20. Cruz
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    Feb 14, 2016
    if he is dropping something this month it will be tomorrow on grammy night but i dont think he has the guts to do that, let alone anything good enough to take away from the awards unless its something with kendrick. I say hes back to the drawing board after hearing the masterpiece of TLOP. [​IMG]
     
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