J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Kold
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    I'm not saying there was no purpose or it didn't work in the context of the album. But Kendrick just doesn't sound that good with a lazy flow. And that isn't even one of Hit-Boy's best beats. At first, I liked it a lot, but that track dipped in replay value. So yeah its mediocre compared to the rest of the album.
     
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  2. Mike Tyson
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    Mike Tyson big cuntry's alias

    Jan 13, 2015
    With MBDTF and GKMC, leave those joints out of the conversation. That's the consensus number 1 and 2 album of the 2010s :shmurda:

    That's like me saying DeRozan is as good as LeBron
     
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  3. Kold
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    Lmao. I get what you're saying but this is music. Completely different than sports which is a lot more objective. Plus if we are going off things like critical acclaim, Yeezus is one of the best albums of the 2010s.
     
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  4. Bliss
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    :khaled2:

    GKMC > MBDTF for me tho :idk:

    But I do agree that FHD is better than NWTS & Take Care.
     
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  5. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    d--- kld3816 stay real as h---
     
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  6. Mike Tyson
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    But there's some level of objectivity to music as well.

    It's why the statement "The Heist is better than good kid m.A.A.d city" is wrong.
     
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  7. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    i love this post

    still dont understand why people nitpick so much, and these two songs (especially the 2 verses ur referring to) are perfect examples of that

    whenever those verses come on i cant help but just start rapping along, the criticisms that people make (especially apparently 2nd verse) dont even cross my mind ... n----- just flowing
     
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  8. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    and GOMD hook is just too much, dont know how people can not feel that

    "SO EVERYDAY I THANK THE MAN UPSTAIRS THAT I AINT YOU AND YOU AINT MEEEE!!!"

    they picked the perfect pitch to modify coles voice to, the whole s--- sounds so cool

    :wow:
     
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  9. Gattuso8
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    But Section 80>GKMC:idk:
    Well atleast in replay value to me
     
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  10. Kold
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    Lol. Based on what though? Again I understand what you mean, but what you think is better is also what you prioritize in rap? If you're being "objective" you basically can't account for emotion, because artist's ability to evoke emotion is so subjective based on who the listener is. But Pac is somehow considered one of the greatest, and if you take out emotion he displayed through his raps I'm not sure that's the case. Obviously there was a lot of other things he did for hip hop culture, but emotion is rap is synonymous with Pac.

    That's why music is so hard to judge music. Yes there is some amount of objectivity, but when you get to a certain level of quality, objectivity is not enough because music is not a complete science.

    That's why the statement FHD>GKMC can't be factually wrong even though I think GKMC is better.
     
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  11. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    wonder if cole will ever use that exact pitch again (hook of gomd), i hope he does :banderas:

    still waiting on GOMD remix with HOV, that would take that song to the levels of appreciation that it deserves

    MAN IM NOT GONA LIE I REALLY HOPE WE GET ROTD2, or TY4 jan 28th ... with at least one remix of a song on the album

    like yo how crazy is it this n----- released that lil niggaz snippet ONE FULL YEAR AGO and here we are about to perhaps get the second instalment of the project n we still dont have the song lol, only cole LMAO
     
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  12. Kold
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    That's the problem with having these arguments though. Does the fact that the Intro of FHD evokes more emotion in me than any other song I've ever heard mean that its just great to me because it relates to my mindset or can I use that to explain how its one of the greatest songs I've ever heard. How I'm I supposed to explain these feelings to someone who doesn't get it or is just not in that place in their life?

    Thats the problem with music right there. I can try to explain that s---, but I can't truly translate how the music makes me feel to someone who is in a different space, and I believe these attachments about the way the music makes us feel that subconsciously affect how we judge albums. At the end of the day, how objective can you really be? :manny:
     
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  13. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    Cole shuda given Timbo a production credit on GOMD and yall wuda been eating that s--- up from the start lmaoooo

    honestly he cud have done that second part, sounds like some s--- timbo wud do tbh :work:
     
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  14. Cruz
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    who remembers when cole read my message on a live stream :laff:

    go to 8:40 http://www.livestream.com/jcole/video?clipId=pla_a2f1ec32-7491-4622-a71c-0ce83d4a786b
     
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  15. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    exactly, thats why ive just completely stopped arguing with people about certain s---

    i used to care bout cole not getting love but honestly now i just couldnt care less ...

    especially on ktt tho, theres really just no point arguing with those people ... jcn (now here) is different cause i actually respect peoples opinions and like to hear their thought processes behind the things they believe
     
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  16. Gattuso8
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    Yea i remember LMAO:laff:
     
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  17. Cruz
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    go to 1301 i been shi--ing on cole for a long time now b. :laff:

     
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  18. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

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    :laff: Cruz is the goat
     
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  19. Bliss
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    lmaoo, I remember this s---, I was f---ing dying. It's been almost 4 years since that, wow :sad2:
     
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  20. Lockness
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    Lockness Never knew a nigga that was better

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    Don't do this bliss
     
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