J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Pgill2016
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    Apr 23, 2018
    I think the fans get caught up in the competiveness of the music industry and don't realize that their favourites can be their favourites without them being "the best ever" and s--- like that so they say ridiculous things when people make fun of their favourites

    For example Nicki Minaj Twitter is a cancer
     
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  2. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 23, 2018
    Yea he delivered with this one. Nothing really bad to say about it.
     
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  3. Pgill2016
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    Apr 23, 2018
    I hope his videos deliver dope messages like Jay did with 4:44 Cole's 1 for 1 so far
     
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  4. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Apr 23, 2018
    I really hope cole have a couple/few features on his next album. k--- Edward was perfect for this one:drakelaugh2:.

    All jokes aside, his hubris is becoming too much now. I wanna hear the competition. Boblo boat was awesome. I wanna hear that awesomeness on his own record.
     
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  5. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 23, 2018
    I think cole is at his best on songs like 1985 and brackets. He's getting way better at social commentary. His next album should be more of that. His thoughts on what he sees in society on less of a personal level.
     
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  6. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 23, 2018
    This is the most industry respect ive seen cole get tbh. So many rappers giving him props.
     
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  7. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Apr 23, 2018
    I respect that.
     
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  8. Big Dangerous
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Apr 23, 2018
    Album is better than 4yeo but I still ain't really feeling it
     
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  9. Shadey
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    Apr 23, 2018
    There needs to be a thread on celeb tweets for the album like there was for FHD. Would love to see more tweets.
     
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  10. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 23, 2018
    Even when you go back and look at high for hours, want you to fly, false prophets. The way he dissects these topics is phenomenal. A whole album of that would be fire. I feel like when he raps from a personal perspective he gets lost sometimes. His social commentary tracks are always 100% focused.
     
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  11. Henny
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    Apr 23, 2018
    I think (hope) The Fall Off will be him on a bunch of outside production with big name features, and the album gonna be mostly full of hits. Thats why its called The Fall Off cos his core fans gonna think he sold out and fell off.

    Cos He’s really taking this no features meme too far now, 3 albums in a row so he can’t do it again.
     
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  12. Henny
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    Apr 23, 2018
    Also JID is on the XXL Freshman cover for 2018. Dreamville won
     
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  13. KLD3816
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    Apr 23, 2018
    Agreed!!
     
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  14. NewLegend
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    Apr 23, 2018
    This album really surprised me because I go into every Cole album expecting there to be 1 WOAT song on it. But these are some of his best.
     
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  15. Uncle Luke
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    Apr 23, 2018
    I dont think we'll ever get another album from cole with features. The n----- just does it on his own, and it work. Honestly i dont feel none of the tracks from his past 3 albums needed features. Maybe a few singers on sone hooks, thats it. But rap features ? Nah.
     
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  16. GKBS
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    @Chigzzer should bring back the elimination thread for this album. I just wish there was a certain section to do all this on @Koolo
     
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  17. Uncle Luke
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    Maybe if he made a album without a real concept he could add some rap features, but these last 3 albums i feel cole had a certain story he wanted to tell and message he wanted to get out, and only he could do it.
     
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  18. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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  19. Somethin Wicked
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    Apr 23, 2018
    But it wouldn't hurt to start making more colellabs after this album, at least with singers.
     
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  20. Kold
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    Apr 23, 2018
    First off, I'm glad people liking this album and its dope that Cole getting all the love and success in the world.

    The good thing about this albums
    Experimented with flows
    Voice and tone changes
    The second half from Kevin's Heart onwards>>>>>>

    Bad things
    Hooks could have been better
    Production was shaky
    Concept could have been better executed

    Don't want to ruin the party, but I gotta be honest, this project probably one of my least favorite Cole projects. This project feels the least like a Cole project than any project before mostly because he's of the parody narrative in the first half. The "reliability" factor is the lowest its ever been here. I got Window Pain on repeat (contender for SOTY), once an addict is incredible as well but some of the criticisms that I've defended before I can no longer defend. None of the bangers on here b--- like that at all if I'm keeping it a buck. Compare any b-----r here to ATO2C, Look Alive, DNA, etc. There's something missing with the KOD, ATM, Motiv8 style songs and that really hurts the album for me. None of the mainstream attempts are as convincing as what he did on FHD. At this point Cole needs to make use of his connections and work with all these other producers cause they're better at creating the bangers he's looking. It also would benefit him to get some singers to do some hook.

    I love Cole still gonna buy the album and still will support as always. But this is the first time I've ever been truly disappointed by a Cole album. Even with 4 Your Eyez Only (that people just hate because its quiet and slow) its still deeply captivating story of African-American tragedy and you still have 4YEO, Bell Tolls, and Change. Its still disappointing to me that this far in his career his features (American Dream, Boblo Boat) continue to be more impressive than his studio albums.

    With all that said, glad y'all are liking it. Obviously people are connecting so I might be in the minority here. Keep enjoying it. Just had to share my piece.
     
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