J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Spartan23R
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    Spartan23R Set of horns and a halo

    Apr 26, 2018
    Reminds me of the song Power Trip where Cole wanted to sing the chorus by himself.. song is dope but could be better indeed with a dope singer on it, maybe Ari Lennox.
     
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  2. Uncle Luke
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Crazy how motiv8 sounded better than kod is the lil snippets from the listening session. But turned out kod is better than motiv8
     
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  3. Pazuzu
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    Apr 26, 2018
    f--- Whitlock

    Calling Mexicans rapists and criminals and only *some* are good people, doling out corporate welfare like crazy, shipping even more jobs overseas than Obama, cutting safety nets, gutting climate change regulations = open minded?? f--- outta here

     
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  4. NewLegend
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Yeah. 1st half is obviously the weaker half of album. But even if you take out the 1, 2, or 3"weak" songs on first half (depending on personal enjoyment). That's still atleast 9 songs on a 12 track album. I personally throughly enjoy 11/12 tracks. Motiv8 the only ok track on KOD to me. Photograph is underrated.

    KOD still flames!!
     
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  5. NewLegend
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Photograph has single potential tbh. After ATM and Kevin's Hart.
     
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  6. Pazuzu
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Thoughts on ATM track @Nav Bhatia? I think it slaps and his flow and wordplay is crazy
     
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  7. Pazuzu
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Zero skips for me. Not every song is 10/10 but this album has no overtly weak joints
     
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  8. Pazuzu
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    Apr 26, 2018
    I mean, Motiv8 ain’t Cole’s strongest but it’s miles ahead of Ville Mentality and Foldin Clothes

    Biggie flow on verse 2:lebcry:
     
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  9. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Apr 26, 2018
     
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  10. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 26, 2018
    Not a bad song. But beat coulda def hit harder. KOD also stays at one level the whole time. For example, on fire squad he had vinylz co produce and that s--- has little things that put it over the top. Also having two repetitive hooks in a row on ATM and motiv8 kinda weak. The cut off verses and flow are great but i think the k--- edward vocals are whack. Small tweaks to those songs couldve really boosted this album.
    Co-production on KOD to give the beat some more bounce
    Miguel or someone on the cut off
    Khalid on photograph
    ATM not bad tbh
    Motiv8 is just an average attempt at a b-----r.
     
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  11. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Apr 26, 2018
    Just seen someone say KOD stands for kanye on drugs lmaoo
     
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  12. Gattuso8
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    Apr 26, 2018
    U can be the greatest man alive but as you become a politician u lost me. Obama had the image of a great guy, and he is holding that to this day. If u never knew anything about politics you would believe Obama is great, i see past all that. Him goin to Barbara Bush funeral says nothing to me, she was married to a once president, god knows how many secrets she knows, what U.S. did around that time, f--- her too.

    Of this im writning it sounds like am a cold and evil guy with no sympaty but it aint like that. I have studied politics alot, i see throw their bs. I see whats happening in the world, the play for the audience. Things are much deeper then that.

    I respect or opinion but i will never respect a U.S. president or politician as a whole.
     
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  13. NewLegend
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Respect that. Didn't really say anything bad about album. Just some tweaks could have made the album better for you.
     
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  14. NewLegend
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    Apr 26, 2018
    I don't skip anything either. But that second half is GOAT. So GOAT in fact that it makes the 1st half that has GOAT cutoff and other really good songs ( KOD, ATM, Photograph) seem not as good. But they are really great. Just 2nd half is sooo GOAT. Also the little things in KOD are underrated.
     
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  15. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Apr 26, 2018

    Bro, I agree. I’m deep into politics as well. I know they all are the same. That’s why I didn’t get mad when Lupe said obama was the biggest terrorist in the world because I understood what he meant. (Please people, don’t jump down my throat lol)

    I don’t respect em either from a political standpoint. From a compassionate standpoint and a ‘deceny ’ standpoint theirs night and day between trump and most presidents.

    To give some context, Ye is famous for saying “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” in response to hurricane Katrina. A whole population of predominantly black People were affected. People stood behind kanye because the response showed that he was part of the struggle (I'm not here to cast aspersions on bush).

    Fast forward, trump has time after time made it known his disdain for people not like him. Trying to keep Mexicans out, trying to bar people from Muslim countries from entering the states, calling people from 3rd world countries bad names. Etc.

    How did kanye once chastise a man who he felt didn't have minorities best interests at heart go to a man who has clearly doesn't have minorities best interests at heart.

    The average person don't know s--- about politics so their anger is aimed directly at the man and not the politics. Just my 2 cents
     
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  16. NewLegend
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Yeah. That's what's so good about it. No overly weak tracks. Thankful for no folding Clothes tracks on here. Great listen 1-12.
     
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  17. Gattuso8
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    Apr 26, 2018
    I get what you mean. Would love to have this conversation in person :daps:

    The only postitive thing about Trump is that he is entertaining:westbrook3:.
     
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  18. Gattuso8
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Seeing Kanye hanging around with Lyor Cohen shows what kind of puppet he is too haha
     
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Look who liked this
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  20. Pazuzu
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    Apr 26, 2018
    Republican Party in Washington = 100% sellouts to Wall Street, oil and gas companies, multinational corporations who are 100% in favor of rich and all are in favor of pointless wars

    Democratic Party in washington= 80% sellouts who also cozy up to Wall Street, some s--- up to oil and gas companies and corporations and most are in favor of pointless wars. Some are more reasonable than others

    There’s a difference between Republicans and Democrats. You gotta go case by case and break it all down. Say a Republican would score a 3/100, a Dem could score a 29/100. Both dog s---, but overall Dems are better. Dems are more reasonable with taxes, regulations that help with clean air and water, and some are tougher on Wall Street and corporations

    But I only fully trust politicians who don’t take $$ from Wall Street, Big pharma and weapons manufacturers. Ro Khanna, Bernie, Democratic Socialists and Justice Democrats candidates = the future

    @Gattuso8 @KLD3816
     
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