Apr 28, 2025 at 8:18 PM

 

Apr 29, 2025 at 1:12 AM

This is 100% correct.

In the industry, Cole’s problem is a widespread loss of credibility and respect due to the way he’s carried himself over the past year.

This is a musical problem as well — all the material with “I’m the best” and “I’ll k--- anyone who steps to me” have been permanently archived because they no longer carry any weight. Given Cole’s ethos over the past 4-5 years, he’s boxed himself into a creative corner.

It’s a sad situation, but very much a self inflicted wound.

 

Apr 29, 2025 at 7:17 AM

The message board narrative is different than what most hip hop fans think. The message board narrative is for the most part made up of Kendrick, Tyler and Carti fans. They all have a lot of active followers online and are loud and opinionated. I posted on here before the Reddit followers of those three compared to Cole. Majority of Cole and hip hop fans aren’t that deep into the internet like those three artists fans. Cole has a lot of people on his side but they aren’t loud on the outside internet. If you can get 100,00 of people to show up to your festival you’re doing something right. And there’s another 100,000 who would’ve loved to be there, too. This thread is an outlier but most Cole fans and hip hop fans in general think differently than the internet narrative

 

Apr 29, 2025 at 8:04 AM

So do we think he's going before JID and Bas or after? I watched the podcast clip. Idk seems pretty thin to me. They could be talking about anything. I'm more persuaded by the lil cole text and Ib's post. I still feel like they wouldn't just do a surprise drop. I feel like they'd want to let Ib, the king of the rollouts, cook for this last one. But who knows?