J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Bodie
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    Dec 30, 2014
    f--- b------s get money:kanye3::biz:
     
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  2. Kold
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    Y'all putting Cole on top much of a pedestal now.

    He says something's that are very true about women, but he's very contradicting and hypocritical like most males in America.

    I thought y'all knew by now.
     
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  3. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    Dec 30, 2014
    ANYONE HAVE A VINE ACCOUNT AND WANTS TO HAVE THE NEXT VIRAL VINE ??

    someone make a vine of gomd with this marshawn lynch run



    start the vid while gomd is at 1:50 so cole is saying gomd as marshawn is jumping and grabbing his d-ck (its perfect too cause marshawn is pushing a guy while cole says "f--- n----- blocking my shine lol)

    have to make it b the next viral vine and get cole more hype ... anyone have a semi popular vine account or sumin ??
     
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  4. Esco
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    Cole pretty much addressed this in I'm A Fool

    She told me "Cole, I love you rode with you way before the riches
    But you way too educated to be calling women b------s
    And calling brothas n----s,
    pardon if I cross a line
    But all this time
    knew you was different than all them other n----s"
    I responded to her "please don't put me on a pedestal
    Cuz I know better and I'm still a fool"
     
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  5. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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    Cole a man just like everyone else. Nigha ain't perfect. Boys be tryna find anything to discredit him.
     
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  6. Narsh
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    What you guys don't seem to be getting, is that throughout ALL his songs - Cole seems to paint women as either being this or that. A ho or not a ho. Trustworthy or not trustworthy. As either pure or impure. He might venture into the territory of creating a more encompassing narrative but has yet to fully embrace his position to accurately comment on the complexities of women in general - unless he honesty believes he's this complicated figure, while every single women he meets either just is or isn't something
     
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  7. Pazuzu
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    Verse 2 of 03' Adolescence = best verse of the year
     
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  8. Narsh
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    These kind of post aren't a good look.

    I don't let hopsin fans defend his deranged world views about one joint ruining your life with "oh that's just hopsins worldview!!" so I can't let Cole fans dance around legitimate criicism with "he's not a perfect man" lol

    Good writing is good writing, lazy writing is lazy.
     
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  9. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Dec 30, 2014
    Listening to say whats real off SFG. Drake really became everything he said he would be. :wow2:
     
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  10. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    LIGHTS PLEASE, LOST ONES, world is empty, losing my balance, hold it down, you got it, best friend, love me not, nothing lasts forever, rise above, can i holla at ya, land of the snakes, etc etc ... i think its clear u havent listened to enough cole to make arguments like this breh
     
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  11. Rae Jean
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    Precisely.
     
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  12. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

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    "future said cause this is 'ye s--- you better k---, and i think this got that makin of a legend feel." :mjcry:
     
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  13. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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    I agree with your last statement. BUT when you question if one rapper has the right to question who decides if a ho is a ho, that's just going to far bruh. Like did you really just ask that?? I'm all for criticizing EVERYONE! But that is crazy.
     
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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  15. Fire Squad
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    I think we get your point about his inconsistencies as far as song-writing goes but the question is if it is something that detracts from the quality of the song? Hip-hop is always a hot-bed for controversy and impreciseness so it's very easy questioning the validity of pretty much any rapper who approached a mic before. The simplicity of a few Cole songs make it more straightforward and to the point and if you ask me he succeeds in addressing whatever he is trying to imply since here we are debating.
     
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  17. Narsh
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    I think it's clear you still don't get the point
     
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  18. 2014 Forever Lives JCN
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    how so ?

    did u even listen to the songs ? ... he doesnt paint the woman one way or another in each song as u claim, he is painting them as complex beings (just like men) with different sides IN EACH PARTICULAR SONG ...
     
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  19. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

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    There's a duality to a ALL humans my brother. "fully embrace his position to accurately comment on the complexities of women in general"...last time I checked, I didn't know he had some PHd in women studies. He's calling it like he sees it.
     
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  20. Narsh
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    That's not what I asked. The quote from a Cole song where he says she's not a "ho" just made a few "ho" decisions

    I'm asking what exactly is a "ho desicion?"

    Somethin society dictates isn't "proper" for a woman to do?

    Any action made by a woman Cole disagrees with?

    Is Cole agreeing with gender stereotypes? Because he doesn't seem to be invalidating them...

    No ones saying Cole is the answer to our societies gender inequality problems or the cause of skewed gender perceptions, but these are valid criticisms raised when you try to make social commentary.
     
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