Mar 31, 2015

My s---'s on Tidal so I f--- with Hov for this.

 

Mar 31, 2015

This is my first streaming service.

were you able to make songs available offline with spotify?

 

Mar 31, 2015

Yes. There's no difference between those two apps except that Tidal is laggy as f---.

EDIT: I forgot that you can't play videos on spotify.

 

Mar 31, 2015

Yeah.

 

Mar 31, 2015

The launch event for the rapper's streaming service was a big mess

After its splashy launch press conference yesterday, the primary argument for Tidal—the two-tiered music service recently purchased by Jay Z that costs either $9.99 or $19.99 per month—is that artists deserve more money for their work. It’s not necessarily a wrongheaded argument, but the manner in which Jay Z and his contemporaries have pressed the point is embarrassingly out-of-touch.

There are real, systemic problems with current streaming services like Spotify, which stream music for free to listeners and distribute to artists a paltry fee drawn from advertising. That’s why Taylor Swift withdrew her hugely profitable catalog from the service last year. The argument Swift has been making is that music has inherent value; from her statements regarding Spotify to her op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, it’s a point she’s consistently made well. The argument Jay Z and his fellow stars at the Tidal launch (including Nicki Minaj, Madonna, and Beyoncé) are making is that they deserve to set the price point for their music. The supporting evidence for this claim? They want to set the price point for their music.

The rhetoric around Tidal was pretty funny, when it wasn’t embarrassing. A promotional video showed various celebrities gathering to discuss their master plan as Beyoncé, who would seem to know better, said “Every great movement started with a group of people being able to get together and really just make a stand.” From Seneca Falls, to Selma, to Stonewall, to Los Angeles, where a bunch of celebrities demanded that their fans give them more money—this country has such a rich history of protest movements.
Jokes aside, the celebrities at the Tidal launch press conference did a remarkably poor job of elucidating why the consumer accustomed to getting music for free should begin paying for it. In the age of Spotify, it is entirely legal to listen to music constantly and never spend money on it. Countering that fact with the moral claim that celebrities would prefer if you didn’t stream music for free only makes sense if you believe celebrities should get everything they want, one hundred percent of the time.

As for the rhetoric in the press conference that music is special and has a unique place in our culture: Music fans agree! That’s why they listen to music often, on services that provide that music for free. But rather than building a better system, Jay Z and friends have, so far, put their energy behind a product that’s more or less the same as Spotify, but more expensive. A product this pointless could, maybe, be sold as a charity case by artists who depend on every penny of fan support. But Jay Z, a rapper who wastes no opportunity to brag, on his records, about his business acumen, is not that figure. Based on the optics of the Tidal launch, his business acumen may have failed him this time.

http://time.com/3765268/tidal-music-jay-z-beyonce/

 

Mar 31, 2015

It's not like they're wrong

 

Mar 31, 2015

You would think with that much talent and that many well established artists that they would of presented this a bit better.

 

Mar 31, 2015

If I was an artist I wouldn't allow these services to stream my music. Not enough money is given to the artist

 

Mar 31, 2015

terrible decision

 

Mar 31, 2015

Why is that?

 

Mar 31, 2015

That's one of the main reasons for Tidal. To allow artist to receive profit for their music. Current streaming services do not do that.

 

Mar 31, 2015

$20 to stream "lossless" and $10 for 320kbs? The average person won't even be able to distinguish between the two. I hope it flops.

 

Apr 1, 2015

 

Apr 1, 2015

rofl @ how pretentious and embarrassingly awful this mess of a press conference was. I predicted in my last post this was a bunch of bs to further line their pockets, but I didn't think they'd go to the extent of making it seem like a "movement" and sling meaningless buzzwords around for an hour without actually saying anything. Holy s---.

 

Apr 1, 2015

But they changed the world!!

 

Apr 1, 2015

Maybe they should make a stand against their labels that pay them nothing for their albums, streaming never used to exist. In a world where it's almost as easy to download something for free as it is to stream they should be happy that people are willing to pay.
The rich people have not attacked labels, or services/companies such as spotify. They want more money from the consumer. Saying 'we want more money' is not a strong argument for me wanting to pay more.

 

Apr 1, 2015

Spotify will eat this piece of s---.

 

Apr 1, 2015

won't be surprised if jay drop's a album this year called Tidal that you can only listen to on tidal.

 

Apr 1, 2015

spotify eats s---?

 

Apr 2, 2015