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Eminem Jeffery vs. The Eminem Show

Started by Mike Tyson, Mar 7, 2017, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Better project?

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  1. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Mar 7, 2017
    dont ever quote me again
     
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  2. Packman
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    Packman

    Mar 7, 2017
    SS2 doesnt do too much for me tbh. If that was thug on every project, I dont think I'd be as big of a fan. But its not bad by any means

    Also SS3 & Im Up switch around a lot for me. I think Im Up has greater songs, but SS3 plays better
     
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  3. Poohdini
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    Poohdini MVP MVP

    Mar 7, 2017
    Yup. A lot of these Em fans don't seem to be taking this thread seriously, but the man's got more bad albums than good. He had a huge impact historically and there was a time when he was great, but he doesn't deserve to be on any top 10 OAT lists imo.
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Mar 7, 2017
    SS2 only has a handful of great songs but it's an hour-long clinic in master-level rapping
     
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  5. The Mandalorian
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    The Mandalorian This is the way

    Mar 7, 2017
    Of course he is, but then in the same rap community TES is held in really high regards
     
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  6. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Mar 7, 2017
    outside of the community of stans, TES is generally considered a huge step below his first two
     
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  7. Bourbon Ben
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    Mar 7, 2017
    kyle aka @YDB needs to stop voting against the thing he actually thinks little b----
     
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  8. Jay Zeus
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    Jay Zeus I am the god-favored weed strain

    Mar 7, 2017
    For whatever reason, TES eclipsed MMLP in some people's minds. MMLP is the only time being an edgelord troll worked in Em's favor. That s--- predates the 4Chan/9Gag phenomenon that would soon follow. We livin' in a Post-Napster and Post-LimeWire age, bruh. Em ran s--- back then. Now, not so much. Plus, he wasn't as determined to reach out to every part of his fanbase like a Nas or a Lil Wayne in their prime. Em literally was G.O.A.T. from '97 to 2001. Four years. Not bad. Very strong four years. But after that, break it down.
     
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  9. Mike Tyson
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    Mike Tyson big cuntry's alias

    Mar 7, 2017
    honestly.

    SSLP was funny, witty, and well written
    MMLP was more angry, was a better reflection of his current reality, and still had some of the wit from his previous offering
    TES was disjointed, unfunny, and borderline cringe but was a display of the pop elements in eminem's music at its best

    and that is a full comprehensive list of his "good" albums.
     
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  10. Freshandclean
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    Mar 7, 2017
    this dumbass b----..
     
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  11. Jay Zeus
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    Jay Zeus I am the god-favored weed strain

    Mar 7, 2017
    Em literally killed off acid rap with MMLP. But in a good way.
     
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  12. Macca
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    Mar 7, 2017
    Why are you so changeling?
    I listen to many other rappers beside Em :
    The white guy from D12
    Jimmy Smith...

    Just kidding lol

    For real here my favs beside Em:
    Mos Def
    Black Thought
    Jay z
    Kanye
    Immortal Technique
    Kendrick
    Big Sean
    Danny Brown
    Then many spanish rappers
    Plus some aussie hh and british grime
     
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

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    fresh dont make me end ur life
     
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

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    we got enough em stans k--- them selves for me to add u to the body count
     
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    Freshandclean I'm fresher than you all, so I don't have to pause

    Mar 7, 2017
    can't wait for the methhead comebacks...
     
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    Mar 7, 2017
    I feel like he was wittier and used ironic comedy and shock value better on SSLP. I felt he was a better rapper-- delivery, flow, lyrics on TES.

    MMLP was the middle ground between the two with less of their faults, and so it was his best era/project.
     
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  17. TimmyT
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    TimmyT Self-Taught

    Mar 7, 2017
    But you've said over and over again that Eminem Show is his Eminem best album
     
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    it isn't
     
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    Freshandclean I'm fresher than you all, so I don't have to pause

    Mar 7, 2017
    like BFLP isn't 3 times better than Jeffrey
     
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  20. Goku187
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    TES marked a moment where Em embraced Serious Artist status. MMLP was like a 75-minute "f--- you" to anyone and everyone, mostly unconcerned with what critics had to say. TES on the other hand has a lot of that same anger, but it's far more interested in artistic credibility than anything before it (like, take a look at the Aerosmith sample for example, and something like Hailie's Song as well). Em got a taste of being taken seriously and liked how it felt. For that reason I think a lot of his fanbase elevated it despite obvious flaws (myself included, at the time!) - it felt like he was operating on a different playing field. That doesn't mean it's necessarily better than what came before it, though - I would argue that is isn't, and ambition aside, it falls short in different ways
     
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