Dec 8, 2015 I'm In It -f--- it, this is tiring for now... i'll come back to it... He structured individual songs and the tracklisting with the intention of disrupting a rational flow... meshes different styles and sounds and he plays with the listener's suspension and expectations all over this album.. that's what gives it the edge.. that's why accompanied with the brash lyrics it all feels so blunt and in your face. I feel he takes many cues from techno in that regard (hardly surprising with Arca, Evian Christ and Gesaffelstein There's more to a good album than that, there has to be some feeling of innovation, purpose, and surprise imo To me it hits me right in the feels... and that's my personal best sensor to know if something is accurate or not... Liking Cudi doesn't make other artists better or worse and vice versa.. The fact the album sounds more like a rap/grunge mix than any of the two set apart speaks volumes about its creativity. I concur it doesn't reinvent the wheel.. but it's not a blatant ripoff either. OR i'm still looking for words to describe the feelings, thoughts and emotions i had when first listening to this amazing album I don't need technically better performers to enjoy genuine emotions being transfered through artful albums
Dec 8, 2015 as a whole it might be hard to, because thats the brilliance of yeezus, but there are definitely aspects of songs like on site that im sure ive heard before
Dec 8, 2015 Playing with the listeners emotions is done literally all the time Kendrick did it this year with U->Alright Yes there is more to a good album, but you can enjoy music without it being technically good. I like confused despite its flaws. Good thing that's not even close to what I said. I'm saying it's apparent you don't listen to enough grunge or punk to make a judgement call on what's innovative and what's a rapper doing middling impressions of superior musicians By that definition Limp Bizkit is a musical genius OR you consistently throw out terms and adjectives you clearly don't understand the definition of and pad it by saying "furthermore" and other things to turn your post into a psuedo-intellectual word soup This is what I said in the first post of this argument. It doesn't have to be technically impressive to be liked, just quit pretending it is when it isn't. You like it, that's enough.
Dec 8, 2015 Guess what album TPAB took the most cues from buddy? Yup, Yeezus What are the flaws were talking about here??? Just making sure we're thinking about the same things What does the fact that someone is a superior musician change about the fact Cudi dropped an amazing album? Pls make this simple to understand for me... They are creative.. not a MUSICAL genius lmao OR you consistenly try and undermine my comprehension of the elements that make up good music. If anything, calling my arguments pseudo-intellectual is kinda snobbish on your behalf. I'm not saying he's a gifted guitarist, just a gifted songwriter and artist. So i found some songs you asked for.. point proven i guess?
Dec 8, 2015 I'm guessing he meant taking cues from Yeezus in the sense that Yeezus was an experimental album done by a big artist, so Kendrick wanted to do something like that too. Cause i can't imagine he means it's taking cues from Yeezus in terms of sound, the two albums obviously sound nothing alike.
Dec 8, 2015 Yeezus wasn't even the first Kanye album to be a mainstream experimental project, either way it's a silly thing to say.
Dec 8, 2015 Oh yeah i know ye had 808s as well, i'm thinkin b2s just meant that yeezus's weirdness alone inspired kendrick, don't think i agree that it did, unless kendrick said something about yeezus, but i think thats what b2s meant. I could be wrong tho.
Dec 9, 2015 Yes its directly inspired by yeezus imo From the structure, leftfieldness to the screams, lyrical themes and outer genres meshed together (even assasin makes a return)
Dec 9, 2015 Every aspect you mentioned could easily be attributed to death grips So you could say TPAB was influenced by death grips too Orrrrr you could see its clearly inspired by s--- like DJ Quik and older experimental jazz There's millions of different types of experimentation, simply being experimental and happening to share a feature doesn't mean they're similar
Dec 9, 2015 The timing, lyrical themes, anti-mainstream statement, creative direction for me SCREAM Yeezus as i've tried to explain before. I think touring with Ye added to these inspirations.
Dec 9, 2015 Ok but that's directly relative to the fact that you've probably never listened to his actual influences
Dec 9, 2015 How about the fact that it literally only shares lyrical similarity with two songs, new slaves and black Skinhead? Or the fact that it isn't based off Holy Mountain? Or the fact that the entire album revolves around a 2pac interview? Or the fact the production shares literally nothing in common with yeezus and you can clearly trace his actual influences just based off the song credits and samples alone?
