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Donkey Kong Cuntry said

It has nothing to do with "acting PC" and everything to do with just treating people like human beings. Yall are the ones who got upset over a 19 year old's twitter joke lol.
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I don’t think anyone truly was upset bro, come on.

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Donkey Kong Cuntry said

d--- man no one can make a joke anymore because of these snowflakes and their PC culture
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b-b-but I have gay friends!

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Donkey Kong Cuntry said

also like do we even have any confirmation that this is real? isn't this most likely for a music video or something or just him f---ing around on twitter like he always has?

but people are so terrified of trans people that the mere idea of it causes a three page thread (which is a lot for a non-em sxn80 thread these days) of back and forth pearl clutching
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is very obviously a joke

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JMG said

Real life isn't twitter though. No way this is accepted by the masses unless you're talking maybe Cali. I am scared of the world changing in a negative way. Glofiying mental illness isnt a good change. Do you think Cuties was acceptable?
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Do you seriously compare a digusting movie which sexualised children with a GROWN a--- man putting on some fake ti--ies? That's wild lmao

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I blame Kanye West for turning the rap game fruity.
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like is this really what you think? You think we should go back to the glory days when rappers called each other fa----s for wearing skinny jeans?

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I reckon the mad people ITT got a boner from this pic and are ashamed.

Its 2021 man, if you arnt dabbling in same sex sex, you are a weirdo

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Marsh said

I would need an Em line about this.
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As long as it has Rihanna on the hook, right?

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Ordinary Joel said

We already have a lot of dickheads in the world, it's just in the future it'll be literal
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Lmfao

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icecube said

Hang on, is this real?
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Ricky said

Fake boobs, but yes, this is real
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I blame Kanye West for turning the rap game fruity.

god d--- weirdos

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Bigots and Clowns itt

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Martha Stewart said

Mfs cant even make jokes anymore
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I saw when he posted that s--- on Twitter. I just assumed it was a joke. Did he really do that???

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Mfs cant even make jokes anymore

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Mikey said

i still dont think there is anything wrong with finding someone who has had a sex change a bit weird.
I wouldnt use the term if they found it disrespectful though.

I think the majority of people would find them weird.
They certaintly do have my respect for the bravery involved to do it.
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Trying to visualize myself wanting to not have a penis is indeed weird, but people saying things like

mental illness
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yuck
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this is f----- up
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isn't that

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The fact that no one who was complaining about "both sides" and "PC culture" responded to this is unsurprising but it's really the only proof I need that this was never about "freedom of speech" or "both sides of the debate," it was about people being mad that they got called out.

I'm still willing to have a reasonable discussion with anyone else interested in the same thing.

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I was talking to some people privately about this stuff but I'm just gonna edit my convos into a single post here as well:

You don't have to explicitly call someone a "fa----" or a "tranny" for the general attitude toward the LGBTQ community here to be hateful. In fact, that's really what the the vast majority of bigotry/racism/whatever you wanna call it is—the otherism is so engrained in people that it comes out implicitly all the time. I read, write, and edit English writing and communication for a living, and this kind of thing does matter and contribute to attitudes and the way people understand things.

The thread shouldn't have had anything to do trans people in the first place because it was a joke tweet that didn't try to say anything about gender or trans issues, it was just a ridiculous photoshop—but the discourse around trans people here is so negative in general that people responded in the same way that they would if it was abut an actual trans person, saying stuff like "mental illness."

Using the slang term "fruity" is homophobic no matter how you use it. The "fingers in the booty a--- b----" Amber Rose/Kanye thing is definitely a funny instance in general, but in this context it was a response to kanye making the rap game "fruity," which was in response to a thread that became transphobic in literally the first reply.

And the thing is: it's definitely a weird picture! His entire point was likely to make people feel uncomfortable (and he did a great job). If the responses were just commenting that the picture was weird it would have been fine—but the context of the thread was that he's gross or weird for being trans.

What you're saying is inherently transphobic even if you don't mean it to be. If Lil Nas X was actually trans and actually transitioned into a woman, Lil Nas X would most likely prefer to be called "she" rather than "he." So by saying "his man t-ts are weird" you would not be respecting the fact that Lil Nas X has transitioned into a woman by calling her (in this hypothetical case) a man and calling her weird.

Like I said, the concept of being transgender is definitely hard to wrap your head around and definitely feels "weird" when you don't know much about it, but at this point in my life I would never use the term "weird" to refer to anything that has to do with being trans, because the implication there is negative and unaccepting. I don't expect every single person who comes to this forum to understand trans issues because it's something that only came to the forefront of conversation/public consciousness in the past 10 years. I didn't always understand, and I'm more than willing to have these conversations with people because I remember a time when I didn't get it. It wasn't something I knew much about until my roommate came out as trans to me around 10 years ago.

This instance has nothing to do with being soft—I laugh my a--- off at quote unquote "offensive" comedy such as South Park and Dave Chappelle like most people here. But the difference is that South Park and Chappelle usually come from a POV of understanding their targets and poking fun at their intricacies and idiosyncrasies. My issue with the "jokes" here is that they don't seem to come from a place of understanding or acceptance, they seem come from a place of otherism and unwillingness to learn about the subject or even do the bare minimum to treat trans people like human beings. Like The World Health Organization removed being transgender from the list of mental illnesses (as had many places before that), so calling it a mental illness is just disagreeing with medical science lol.

Like I said man, I don't expect everyone to fully understand this stuff at this point in time, but I would hope that people are willing to learn and listen and be respectful. When the punchline is "ha ha trans people exist" or "ha ha gay people exist" it's not only hacky but not even really a joke because there isn't a punchline. It's stuff that would come from a comedian that has s--- like this for their Netflix special cover:

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If you still don't understand the difference between sex and gender, you are not educated enough to have any valid opinion on this.

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Maybe depression? Idk I know a lot of people (not in person) who have done extreme body modifications to later realize it was a huge mistake whether it's girls cutting their ears to be like elf's or split tongues face tattoos or even more drastic s--- and blamed it on not being happy with life or not thinking straight again though if this is what he or anyone else truly wants then more power to them but f---ing up your life with your appearance and regretting it later is f-----
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Uhm okay but cutting your ears to be an elf vs going under a reversible transition isn't the same

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I will say, in my farewell to this thread, that most people on both sides of this issue address it in such a manner that neither side is going to budge strictly out of lack of respectability.

I understand the need to vehemently disagree with someone’s viewpoint, but coming at it in a matter which is nothing other than name calling, finger pointing, and straw manning is counterproductive for both sides. If you disagree with someone and want to educate them, insulting them for their opinion and/or lack of understanding is a sure fire way to make sure they never change said opinion.

Carry on.

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Ed Hominem said

What do you want me to say on it though? Not like I’m gonna change anyone’s mind either way.
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Nothing, I'm enjoying the energy drink discussion lol

EDIT: moved this discussion to here:
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Chrollo said

@Donkey Kong Cuntry I agree with everything you wrote (didn't wanna quote because of length of the post). The thing is people will read this and still call you ' easily triggered', even though everything you said is just common decency that everyone should develop after a while being alive on this earth. I'm a big advocate for discussion with other people and maybe broaden your own horizon instead of just stubbornly clinging to the values your parents or environment growing up ingrained in you. My parents weren't the most progressive people on earth either, neither were my friends from school and I still managed to become pretty open minded. And I still don't see how not trashing trans people will lead to the normalisation of pedophilia or the 'pussyfication of our kids', like some people in this thread seem to believe.
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yep, it feels futile at times because people will say "it's just a joke man" and refuse to do any soul searching or look at their own behavior. it's basically this:

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@Donkey Kong Cuntry I agree with everything you wrote (didn't wanna quote because of length of the post). The thing is people will read this and still call you ' easily triggered', even though everything you said is just common decency that everyone should develop after a while being alive on this earth. I'm a big advocate for discussion with other people and maybe broaden your own horizon instead of just stubbornly clinging to the values your parents or environment growing up ingrained in you. My parents weren't the most progressive people on earth either, neither were my friends from school and I still managed to become pretty open minded. And I still don't see how not trashing trans people will lead to the normalisation of pedophilia or the 'pussyfication of our kids', like some people in this thread seem to believe.

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BIGFOOT said

Why are you comparing me to a professional comedian?

Even Dave Chappelle misses every now and then.
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Ban this MFer.

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