Lil Peep Dead at 21

Started by The Gooch, Nov 16, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. theg
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    theg got that pma

    Nov 17, 2017
    no just you actually
     
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  2. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Nov 17, 2017
    The sad part is all these internet white knights will forget about this issues in 2 days while the addicts got a lifetime
     
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  3. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

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    I have a great amount of respect for your thoughts and opinions but I've got to ask you a few things. First of all I think this article was incredibly irresponsible. I mean don't you think this type of rhetoric sounds awfully familiar

    Now is not the time to have a conversation about Xanax. Now is not the time to harangue recreational drug users, or start any sort of “see, drugs are bad” dialogue. What we can do is admit why so many of us related to Lil Peep on such an emotional level, which is, to put it simply: we saw something of ourselves in him



    Now I'd be lying if I said I knew anything about this kid before yesterday and while anybody dying so young is tragic and he very well could have been a good guy, but- can you really call his music and what he promoted good? I don't like that this kid had such a huge platform and used it to promote reckless drug abuse. And I'm not singling him out I'm talking about all of these addict rappers. In my industry I'm working with a lot of 17-22 year olds and not only do they look up to these guys they emulate them. This is the self-snitching generation so I see them posting about it on Snapchat, Twitter, IG... They really think it's cool to be a junkie now thanks to these addict rappers. I've glanced at some of his lyrics and this is what he was all about.
    I'm just playing Devil's Advocate and maybe I'm just old and don't understand but while I'd never wish death on anybody I think now would be the perfect time to highlight the fact that being a junkie isn't cool. Overdosing isn't cool. I'd like to think that this death will wake up some of his fans. Unfortunately, I'd bet a lot of money that the exact opposite happened and there were a lot of "Xannys" and Percs and whatever else taken for this guy over the past few days.
     
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  4. theg
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    theg got that pma

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    he didnt really promote drug use though a lot of his music is about how f----- up he was on drugs and mentally and how awful being a junkie f--- up made him feel
    idk i really don't know how anyone can listen to any of his songs and think he's promoting it. he's talking about doing it but i really wouldn't call it glamorizing when he talks about being f----- up on pills one second then talks about how he wants to paint the walls with his brains the next
     
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  5. SkrrMan
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    SkrrMan Skrr

    Nov 17, 2017
    Tbh Peep didn’t actually glorify drug use. It may seem like that to someone who hasn’t really listened to him but he rapped about drugs because it was what helped him through his depression and constantly said that he’s going to die because of his drug addiction.
    In all honestly I can’t front when peep died I didn’t believe it and the whole day I was depressed and had no motivation to do anything then at night I broke down crying 3 times. So obviously peep had a huge influence on people and honestly peeps core fans weren’t just kids trying to get lit, they could relate to peep in some way and majority were either doing pills to numb their feelings or weren’t doing pills and knew Peep was never really trying to glorify drugs he was just saying how he felt and what he was doing to just feel good about himself. Maybe there will be some kids in a similar position as him taking drugs to numb their pain but I feel like his death will make a lot of people stop with the pills, it’s already having an effect on the whole hip hop scene with lil uzi vert and famous dex going sober or at least just smoking weed
     
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  6. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

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    And you're both right. I've never listened to him I just googled some of his lyrics so I guess I can't see his music in it's proper context. I guess I see lyrics like
    "Yeah, I do them drugz, I don't give a f--- what you think" and immediately think of Future, somebody I'm a huge fan of and the whole "I'm an addict and I can't even hide it." I just know how popular these guys are and then think of my little brother who's about to turn 14 and he's asking me what Xannys are and rapping along to Percocet, Molly, Percocet.... and I don't just cringe I legit get scared as f---.
     
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    SkrrMan Skrr

    Nov 17, 2017
    Yeah it’s a scary time for young kids and hip hop, they influenced too easy and probably don’t do any research into the drugs they’re taking or the actual risk of taking them. I know 13 year olds who sit in parks off Molly and I always think to myself how they manage to get it and what low life is selling 13 year olds molly
     
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    theg got that pma

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    Yeah thats a huge problem especially with younger audiences but on the other hand idk I can't really expect or ask them to hide that fact.

    He was an addict and that was his life, so he wrote songs about his life, the good and the bad. I think a big part of the problem is that when they put that story out there kids see it and then they see that they're successful rappers getting paid and getting women while being on drugs and they dont understand the real focus of the story being told. instead of hearing "i'm f----- up on drugs to the point that i don't give a f--- about anything" they see it and hear "i do drugs and i don't give a f---" and connect that with being cool and successful.

    its definitely a problem but i don't really see how the blame can fall on the artist for how their art is interpreted. all the artist can do is make their art and live their life. a lot of people probably saw peeps drug abuse and thought it was cool without listening to the songs he wrote about hating waking up in the morning.
     
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    Nov 17, 2017
    16 lines video really hits you when you look into his eyes and see how f----- up he is.
     
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  11. theg
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    theg got that pma

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    man who gives a s---
    like what is doxing this girl going to do
    im sure she didnt willingly go to a famous rapper that she's a fan of and knowingly hand him a fent pill
    if this is real (and from what i've seen the only source for this is an anonymous ex boyfriend of hers which i wouldn't call condemning) then she's probably just some stupid girl with some bad pills. really cringe at the idea of bandwagon hating on some girl because her ex boyfriend anonymously said that she gave him bad xans in the past.
     
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  12. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I actually posted that article as I was reading it before I got to that part, and I agree with you for the most part. Though I think I understand what the author was getting at, I don't like how she worded it, because I think it definitely is the time to have a conversation about drugs, just not in the reprimand-y way that many people approach it. Obviously there are way too many factors that go into the opioid/general drug epidemic to create a cure-all solution in a forum post, but I hope that with Prince dying because he bought a black market vicodin that was cut with fentanyl and that most likely being the case with Peep and fake Xanax would help bring to light to the powers that be that addicts are going to do drugs until they drop dead or decide they don't want to anymore.

    We're SO far away from this in the USA, but I hope in my lifetime I'll be able to see a country where addicts could "register" with the the government to get a license to able to safely purchase drugs that aren't cut with a substance that can k--- you in MICROgram amounts. Also, real harm-reduction information along with knowing the dangers of addiction so if people do decide to do drugs they know how to do them as safely as possible. I live in Washington and my old roommate used to sell weed. He was out of business within a year of the first shops opening even with them being more expensive (they've since gotten cheaper). Obviously weed =/= pills, but I think it's interesting to note how fast the black market disappeared once it was government regulated.

    I'm honestly torn on the glorification of drugs in music thing. Even if Future and Peep rap about how drugs are ruining their life, a hit song is a hit song, and people get f----- up to hit songs. Even Kendrick Lamar's anti-alcohol song "Swimming Pools" was played everywhere at bars and parties when I was in college. Some people are attracted to that "live like a rockstar, die like a rockstar" lifestyle. Like you said, though, I hope this is a wake up call to people that shows not even someone as legendary as Prince is immune to ODing, nor is someone like Peep who abused drugs daily. All it takes is one bad pill or one bad decision.

    What do you do for a living btw, if you don't mind me asking?
     
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    DetroitDGAF Locked in Mariah’s Wine Cellar

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    Tbh was jus curious if anyone had posted it

    People are so ready to gear their anger towards anyone it seems, like those people shi--ing on that bexey guy. :emchillbro:f--- goods it gonna do now
     
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    theg got that pma

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    and ik how hypocritical this is coming from me before some old sl guy says it but this is different from what we did
    it's one thing to f--- with someone and post their d-ck pics or order them pizzas
    this is basically accusing this girl of murder
     
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Nov 17, 2017
    s----s been a problem since music began tbh
    60s thru 70s was lsd
    80s was cocaine
    90s wss heroin
    00s was lean
    10s pills
     
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  16. theg
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    theg got that pma

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    yea i didnt see anyone post it so far in this thread but i did see it elsewhere. i just think its dumb to point fingers after the fact. she might have given him the pill (if that is true) but he would have gotten a bad xan at some point somewhere at the rate he's going. it seems pointless to point the frustration that he's dead at her. i'm sure if she really did sell him the xan then a) she's probably feeling more than guilty enough right now and b) she'll have her day in court so i dont see the point in spreading her name and twitter campaigning against her
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    coke and opiates always been in style tbh
     
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

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    True but in certains eras their presence is heightened for example the 90s with the grunge movement
     
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    DetroitDGAF Locked in Mariah’s Wine Cellar

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    If they're second/third hand, does she get in trouble or the person that she bought them from? How does that s--- work? She should? But shouldnt they too? Or no? Idk. They could be hers for all i know.

    I always love your well typed non-eye sore posts, excuse my s--- type-talk.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    This whole situation is all kinds of sad. I’m not familiar with much of his music but always tragic when someone goes out like this. Also, I see a lot of people tackling this as a “youth drug issue” when it’s really not. Drug abuse is a nation wide issue within the U.S. More so than not, it’s middle age people who die from drug addictions. Also, this idea that peep or hip-hop in general is promoting drug abuse, I think is a garbage take & ignores the wider issue.
     
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