Mar 19, 2015

oh so you took some of my basic information i gave you and are doing it?

which is healthier than you were living

 

Mar 19, 2015

me + 1

solo s--- my nut

 

Mar 19, 2015

everything Solo said was true though. It comes down to what @Bot chooses to do with his life. @Final thinking he is responsible like he is @Bot's life coach

 

Mar 19, 2015

Lol that wouldn't be hard. But u were way off about artificial sweeteners.
Also your Diet >>>> Any workout your doing. If you want to gain strength for e.g it won't matter how many Reps & Sets you are doing if you are not getting enough protein who won't get stronger.

 

Mar 19, 2015

I'm mad, but I ain't stressed.

[/QUOTE]

No quoting me, no mentions? So not only are you stupid, you're a coward too.

you realize how quickly things change and new ideas and new methods are discovered

nothing is set in stone

obviously i'm not up to date with the latest fitness shyt, everything i posted is stuff that i've known from like 7 years ago when i was actively healthy

So in one breath you acknowledge that information and methods in the fitness industry are exponentially progressing and then you turn right around and give him advice from 7 years ago. Okay! And btw you're giving out advice that may have been relevant in the 1960's, not 2008.


if you really are an established fitness b----, you should be able to understand not all of your expert level shyt is going to workout for bot

Actually with my expertise I'm able to understand that even the most elementary principles of fat loss and working out would help a beginner like @Bot. What won't work is your make believe bs.

i gave him basic information to help him and you come in here acting like f--king zeus

No, you didn't give him "basic" information. You gave him WRONG information which you either 1.) completely made up 2.) tried to regurgitate s--- you may have heard in the past and it went disastrously bad for you.

 

Mar 19, 2015

Once you start drinking only water you don't really even think about drinking anything else. I've been drinking nothing but water and milk (and coffee a few times a week) for a long time now. Water makes you feel good in general.

 

Mar 19, 2015

Again I don't know what's more embarrassing? The fact that you're a complete imbecile or the fact that you're an absolute coward?

 

Mar 19, 2015

@M Solo

Really bro? You're going to call me a coward for not tagging you?
You and I both knew for a g.d. fact you were going to read my posts, tagging you is absolutely pointless. Your f---ing name is in the post.
You know every response from me is directed directly to you. Don't act like a dumbass. Jesus Christ.

Why are you so petty?

 

Mar 19, 2015

@M Solo I am done responding to @M Solo

@M Solo you have clearly taken this far too personal to have a intelligent conversation @M Solo

@M Solo do you see how f---ing redundant this is @M Solo

 

Mar 19, 2015

We can have an intelligent conversation. You're the one who's doing the name calling. I attacked your claims first, then you. You haven't said a single word in your defense about the claims you've made. Not one. I'll wait.

 

Mar 19, 2015

@M Solo you've already cemented my thoughts about you in a completely negative way, I have nothing more to say to you.
I did not start the name calling btw. That's weird you say that.

@Bot is better off listening to your advice, as I stated already. You know more about how to help him than I do.
You have disproved my information.

So please, help him. Unless your actual goal here is to have a back and forth with me, help him out.

Thanks fam.

 

Mar 19, 2015

@Bot is my guy he knows all he has to do is ask me for help and it's done. He'll vouch for that.

Glad you finally admitted defeat. Fam. In all seriousness I'd open up your worldview a bit and try to understand that you may not have it all figured out. You're only a fool the moment you think you know everything there is to know.

 

Mar 19, 2015

okay back to helping out fat people

are your major recommendations for starting to focus on weight lose just to reduce carb/sugar intake and aim for calorie deficits (while being "active" throughout the day, at the very least)?

@M Solo

 

Mar 19, 2015

An overview of the safety of sucralose

V. Lee Grotz (a), Ian C. Munro
a McNeil Nutritionals, LLC, 601 Office Center Dr., Fort Washington, PA 19034, USA
b Cantox Health Sciences International, 2233 Argentia Road, Mississauga, Ont., Canada L5N 2X7

3.3. Long-term safety
Studies conducted show that sucralose is safe for use during pregnancy and from conception and throughout the lifetime (Mann et al., 2000a,b). 78-Week and 104-week studies in rats, both including an in utero phase, and a 104-week study in mice resulted in no evidence of toxicity or increased incidence, type or onset of tumors with intakes hundreds of times greater than maximum estimated human exposure (Mann et al., 2000a,b). The absence of toxicity was anticipated from subchronic studies (Goldsmith, 2000) and the pharmacokinetics and physicochemical properties of sucralose. The absence of carcinogenicity is consistent with the lack of genotoxicity found in a wide range of studies conducted to evaluate this potential (Grice and Goldsmith, 2000; Grotz et al., 2009). The amounts found safe in these essentially lifetime studies were, for the average-weight adult, equivalent in sweetness to more than 40 lb of sugar per day over the lifetime. Similarly, no birth defects are associated with sucralose use. The potential for teratogenic, mating and/or fertility effects was specifically studied in rats whose only dietary source was standard rat chow incorporating sucralose at up to 3% of the dietary weight (Mann et al., 2000a; Kille et al., 2000a,b), which corresponded to an average daily intake of up 1500 mg/kg body weight/day. For the averageweight adult, this is equivalent in sweetness to over 100 lb of sugar per day. Teratology studies in rabbits also showed sucralose not to be teratogenic (Kille et al., 2000b).

3.4. Clinical studies
Studies were conducted in humans to allow interpretation of the pharmacokinetic and metabolic relevance of the laboratory animal models used. These studies show that the rat, mouse and dog handle sucralose similarly to man. Rat studies are internationally considered by experts to be good physiological surrogates for man for assessing long-term safety. Human tolerance studies were also conducted. For example, in a randomized, double-blind, placebo- controlled 13-week study, subjects consumed sucralose daily at dosages of 125 mg for 3 weeks, followed
by 250 mg daily for 4 weeks, and then 500 mg daily for 5 weeks. There were no adverse clinical effects noted in blood chemistry, hematology, urinalysis, or electrocardiogram parameters (McLean Baird et al., 2000). Sucralose was similarly well-tolerated in clinical studies designed to assess the potential for effects on insulin sensitivity and/or glucose control, both in normoglycemic and diabetic subjects (Sucralose Food Additive Petition, 1996; Grotz et al., 2003). Sucralose intakes in these studies were up to 1000 mg/person/day for up to 6 months. Sucralose did not produce any adverse events. Human studies also show that sucralose has no potential to induce dental caries (Steinberg et al., 1995, 1996; Meyerowitz et al., 1996; Mandel and Grotz, 2002) or affect glycemic control (Mezitis et al., 1996; Grotz et al., 2003). A recent study showed that SPLENDA products, when incorporated into a lifestyle change program targeted to decrease sugar intake and increase physical activity with an aim of an overall 200 kcal/day energy expenditure, can be helpful in weight management in overweight children (Rodearmel et al., 2007).

3.5. Estimated daily intake
Estimated daily intakes are based on conservative assumptions, assuming aggressive replacement of sugar and predicted approximately 1.3 mg/kg body weight/day for the average adult and maximal intakes of up to 2.4 mg/kg body weight/day (US FDA, 1998a, 1999). Sucralose has been found safe at levels hundreds of times this amount. Pre-approval and post-marketing intake assessments also indicate that consumption levels of all non-nutritive sweeteners are well below long-term intake averages denoted as safe by regulators (FSAI, 2005; Renwick, 2006).

4. Overall conclusions
There exists an extensive database in both relevant animal models and humans, which is an appropriate basis for determining the safety of sucralose. Trained safety and health protection experts from around the world conclude from this database that sucralose is a safe food ingredient that can be safely consumed for a lifetime. FDA has specifically noted that it has found sucralose safe for use by children, and people with diabetes, and has found it to be safe for use in foods, generally. There are no limitations for use by any population subtypes (US FDA, 1998a, 1999). There is also no expectation, or evidence, of any interference of sucralose with health treatment regimens. Sucralose has also been found to have no effect on weight, although it can be utilized in weight management programs designed to help manage weight by reducing calorie intake from sugar. Both sucralose and the retail product, SPLENDA No Calorie Sweetener, can be safely used and may be a useful adjunct to the diet in meal plans designed to reduce unwanted calories or carbohydrate from nutritive sweeteners.

 

Mar 19, 2015

Yeah exactly. If you give me your height, weight, age and activity level I can give you a good starting point as far as calories and macronutrients are concerened.


Same for you @Bot

 

Mar 19, 2015

Lol…

Still going man?

When did I ever state I knew everything about this matter?
Seriously when? Quote me.

How do I need to open my "worldview" up?

I literally tried to help a guy out by giving him diet advice that I knew from years past and you came in and told me I was wrong.
I know I am wrong now.

How exactly does that mean I need to open my worldview? I never once thought I had it "figured out". I relayed the information I was taught.

Now you just look like a fool trying to make this into something more/else. We are talking about food/diet of all things.

I feel bad for you at this point.


Lol, wow. Any other posters here not see how petty he is being?
Or are we cool with it cause it's @M Solo?

By the logic you're using, you are the one that needs to open up your world view and understand that when you know something to be true, don't down talk people that don't. Instead use your superior knowledge to teach and learn them.
You need a serious mental check because you're the one acting like you have the world figured out. How ironic.

 

Mar 19, 2015

Age 25, 5'2 height, weight 200 not sure about my activity level

 

Mar 19, 2015

20
5'8"
220Lbs

Ayo tho I'm ***flawless at heart so I ain't ashamed, I'm at an all time high weight wise, but I've been hitting the gym again and working on my diet since jan

I go to the gym at least 3 times a week (after a full day's work, because I can't make time before work)

When I'm there it's usually 30 mins of cardio on a bike, then a short session of weight lifting (not really looking to build muscle right now), and like 15 mins on the elliptical

I know being stagnant is the worst thing, so I try to increase how far I get/resistance on the bike and elliptical semi regularly

Right now I can do like 6.2 miles, and 270 calories in 30 mins. Should I be going for more time or increasing resistance more regularly?

Or is it the short intervals/high intensity approach?

Main hurdle for diet is being vegetarian and reliant on carbs consistsnty. That and weekends at college = endless pit of empty calories

I also don't think I get enough sleep (about 5 hours at most)

Do with all this what you will fam

 

Mar 19, 2015

@M Solo I have a bit of a gut problem and I feel like the only way to get rid of it is to stop drinking alcohol
(for the most part it's just about the only thing I drink apart from water)
Oh and I'm not a fat s---, I've just never had any sort of defined 6 pack muscles. Got any advice? I'm going to be smashing out some more gym soon. But my main focus will be on my arms/weightlifting - I'm not sure if that'll affect my chest much. any tips would be great.

@Final

Just shut the f--- up, you're literally still going.