Oct 10, 2016

timmy also skipped the time when she was a senator from new york during the 9/11 fallout

the idea that clinton is unqualified or ill-prepared is ludicrous

 

Oct 11, 2016

She hasn't listed any of her positions or any of her viewpoints or even what she's going to do when she's president. All it's appearing to be is that "okay, so she's a Clinton; that means she has to have some experience right? And that Donald Trump guy is a racist and all that and he's against change so yeah, Hilary is a good presidential candidate".

I'll change my mind when she truly showcases what she's going to do with her presidency.

 

Oct 11, 2016

UHHHHHHHHHHHH she's laid out comprehensive policy plans on virtually every major issue: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

 

Oct 11, 2016

I meant through character and action, not through text. Policy plans don't mean anything unless you act on them; what impressed me about Obama in 2008 is that he had the boldness and the brashness to take action. I'm not so sure about Hilary.

But she does get points for at least listing out what she plans to do so that's nice.

 

Oct 11, 2016

let's recap here:

you said "she hasn't listed any of her positions," which is patently false

i say "actually, she has listed her positions--here they are"

you come back with "i meant through character and action"

what?

you said she hasn't listed her positions; she's done so thoroughly. and what do you mean through "character"? that doesn't mean anything. how do you express the intricacies of healthcare mandates through character? how do you express by "action" things that only a president can execute when you're a private citizen seeking the office? take the l.

 

Oct 11, 2016

I remember a presidential debate where Obama just owned McCain... He knew what he was going to do, he knew what he was going to say... He knew everything...

I'm a Bernie supporter through and through because that person had charisma and better policies. Hilary uses buzzwords and generic statements and some evidence of action in order to lay down her attempts to gain the presidency. Bernie meant something; Hilary... She means nothing and will probably do nothing.

It's not that she's underqualified or that she has positions... It's the fact that she isn't capable of doing anything other than maintaining the status quo... Trump is a liar, a deciever and in the same position as Hillary because we don't know what the f--- they're going to do.

May go third party... I dunno.

EDIT: Almost forgot, I could write down my policies if I were running for president on a website; but I'd have to prove that I would make sure it would happen; not just rely on some windfall.

 

Oct 11, 2016

hrc is not a good candidate, campaigner, or debater. you're completely right. but knocking her on "generic statements" is wrong; if anything, she let her stump stray too far into the weeds on policy points.

just because sanders kept hammering the same three issues doesn't mean clinton somehow lacks substance. she's one of the best-versed candidates for office we've seen in a long time.

based on what? she was a pretty decisive secretary of state and exercised a lot of agency. her scope was limited as a senator but she was effective in the lanes she picked.

also: what, specifically, would you prefer to change about the status quo?

there is not a viable third-party candidate

again, this...doesn't mean anything. how could she convince you she'll make things happen? pound on the podium?

 

Oct 11, 2016

I totally agree... I'm just not impressed by the points.

I'm not going to debate this; she's the daughter of Bill Clinton, of course she has experience. I don't think she's well versed though... No person is well-versed when it comes to the presidency but I will admit, she does carry some Bernie ideas with her.

America is basically tons of red tape... If she is to maintain her composure she needs to maintain independence, not let government gossip get to her and actually act on the points she layed out on her website.

I would really like to see free community college, I would like to see a better economy, a tax system where the rich are taxed heavily (Roosevelt style), a system where autistic people like me can get the assistance without jumping through many hoops and I would definitely like to see an incentive to being an American rather than the f----- up system we have now.

Be a better debater, actually show me what kind of presence she has. Because right now people are thinking Hilary is terrible based on her debate performance and her inability to be strong. Trump is the ultimate challenge to convince me that she will make things happen.

She has to answer questions, be independent and be worthy.

 

Oct 13, 2016

Ugh, moron. He was smart to do that. There are a lot of people in this country who know she violated federal laws and jeopardized national security and would love to see her go to jail. He gave his core supporters exactly what they had hoped for, and as a result they will be even more likely to cast a ballot. That also goes for people who hate Hillary more than they do Trump. It was such a smart move that I doubt it was even his idea. He's clearly got some brilliant advisers.

 

Oct 13, 2016

You guys saw those Mexicans burning a trump puppet??

 

Oct 14, 2016

 

Oct 14, 2016

I thought Trump was the one who wanted to f--- his daughter?

 

Oct 14, 2016

Thread lit again.

 

Oct 14, 2016

got me howling at 3 am jesus christ

 

Oct 14, 2016

Apologies if I'm poor at debate.

 

Oct 18, 2016

She is Bills wife brah