Jun 2, 2015Alright Mr. Sarcasm, don't need to be such a tryhard prick with my post because you can't recognize a good comment about the record
And if we are going to talk about cringeworthy lines I can quote endless horrible punchlines from Recovery, MMLP2 it's not nearly as bad in that aspect
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Jan 6, 2026
Jun 2, 2015
Agreed 100%. Especially about the mixing. Hate Liz Rodriguez's contribution too..
Khalil and Eminem need to not work together anymore imo.SubwaySam, SLAYAR, Epitome and 1 other person like this. -
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Jun 3, 2015
I think the rumors about him currently using ghost writers are 100% true. Seriously you don't just forget how to rap and flow normally. Check out ArtemusGordon on IG. He pretty much confirmed it and that dude knows everything about everything. -
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Jun 3, 2015
Even if you hate Relapse, the one thing you have to take away from it is the flows. Those flows were on f---ing point.
People talking about he dont know how to flow anymore. Relapse and parts of Phenomenal crushed that statement. -
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Jun 3, 2015
I'm dauncing in my red pontiesSLAYAR, Mike02 and Translucent like this. -
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Jun 3, 2015
i am sure i speak for everyone when i say we feel the same way about youNick, Section80 and Sav Stanfield like this. -
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Jun 3, 2015
Encore had Toy Soldiers, Spend Some Time, Mockingbird, Yellow Brick Road, We As Americans, Love You More. Although the crap on Encore is worst than any of the s--- he's put out, the good songs on the album are better than anything on MMLP2. -
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Jun 3, 2015
I will never deny that Eminem can't still rap, cause he can. But his actual songs are just so run-of-the-mill now. It used to be you'd wanna listen to his songs over and over again, but now every new joint he drops, you can listen to it once and then never have to hear it again. -
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Jun 2, 2015
I think the root of the problem here is that Eminem will NEVER get personal ever again on another track. He said that in an interview.
Him reflecting on his career and making generic love songs that are probably about Kim are as close as we will ever get again. There is literally no more content. -
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Jun 2, 2015
Ok yeah this post made me respect your opinion more and gave me some insight on your thinking. Before it just came off to me as blind hate.
Ever since Recovery era, he has been wildly inconsistent as opposed to before where he was consistently putting out good material. For every GOF, Fine Line, Spacebound, etc. there's even more Calm Downs, Love Games, and what not..I'd say he's gone from being the undisputed best to just leveling out as maybe slightly below average to slightly above average. In my heart of hearts, I don't seem him as the worst rap artist out right now or on par with the worst as some may like to think, but he's clearly over the hill yet still clinging on to the fundamental rap skills he was born with. He'll put out something like a GOF or Phenomenal just when you're ready to give up on him to let you know he's still got it. -
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Jun 2, 2015
I'll make fun of GD's terrible lines but it's not like I'm trashing something I otherwise like. The content is redundant and the song is just corny to me as a whole. Just like I didn't give a s--- about his history listen on Yellow Brick Road I don't care for it on this song. I don't like his flow, his voice, anything about it. But hey if you think the song is coo coo ballistic then more power to you.
I thought the first two verses of Legacy were GREAT. The third verse literally gave me goosebumps because I was embarrassed. But I'm supposed to like it why? He's done plenty of "I told you so's" throughout his career and I've loved the majority of them. He could of done it without talking about flying saucers and sausages flying out of his a--- hole. That was perhaps the worst song of his career.
It's whatever though. The majority of people love MMLP2. That's great. I prefer Recovery. A majority of people hate Phenomenal. I really enjoyed it. But you don't see me running around trying to force everybody else to feel the same way like all of you nut cases do with MMLP2. You people get flat out angry and try and force people to appreciate "HOW IT'S THE GREATEST ALBUM SINCE TES!!!!" No, I f---ing disagree. I enjoyed Recovery, GOF, Fine Line and now Phenomenal. I thought MMLP2 was a piece of s---. Don't feel the same way? That's great I don't give a f---. You enjoy what you enjoy and I'll do the same. I'm glad I'm me. -
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Jun 2, 2015
I remember that thread. Good memories. And yes I still think Recovery is his best work since 8 Mile. Talkin To Myself, Going Through Changes, Not Afraid, Seduction, No Love, Space Bound, and 25 To Life are all outstanding. -
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Jun 2, 2015
Come on bro, using one line to discredit an entire song? Groundhog day literally explains how Eminem was introduced to rap music by Uncle Ronnie, and he soon realized that rap was his future. How him and Proof used to write together and how they came up with the concept of D12 and all of their alter egos. You say how content is everything for you, yet you don't seem to give MMLP2 any credit, probably his greatest album since TES, content wise.
Instead you focus on one line and declare the entire song trash. Same with Legacy, three verses all told from different stages in Eminem's life. First as a young, awkward kid who got bullied and stuffed into lockers. Second verse as a teenager, just introduced to rap music, starting to gain confidence through writing raps and getting stronger as the verse goes on. And finally third verse as a successful rap artist, shoving it in the faces of everyone who doubted him and said he wouldn't amount to s---.
ShadyXV was the worst thing Eminem has put out in a while. Besides Fine Line, which is great content wise and has a classic beat, but still suffers from a horrible flow. His flow on ShadyXV, Die Alone, Vegas, and Right for Me makes me want to vomit. -
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Jun 2, 2015
Didn't you & @Arch Dogg think Recovery was a great album. I remember on SL you made a thread defending how Recovery was great and Arch Dogg was so happy that someone credible actually agreed with him lol -
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Jun 2, 2015
I think you meant to quote me, mate. The snide comments I didn't agree with were "objectively speaking this isn't a good song at all" and the "he set the bar so low" comments. I agree but even more strongly disagree with those comments. Mostly disagree because I feel like those statements take away from how decent the song is.
I don't think you were speaking "objectively" when you say it isn't good because you've been disappointed by him the past few years so it's almost as if you have a guard up when you turn on a new Eminem song and brace for the worst. But you can let the guard down because I think it is pretty safe to say the song is good.
I get what you are saying with the "set the bar so low" line ....buuuuuut...idk it just came off as an underhanded comment. Like the grumpy boss who isn't good at giving compliments. "Hey Marshall, you finally did this right, but you're still a f-- at the end of the day" Sort of like that homie.
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Jun 2, 2015
"a little" anytime he trys to defend mmlp2 like 6 people g--- r--- himSection80, DanielFreitas and Young Sinatra like this.Jan 6, 2026(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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Jun 2, 2015
Is that just because it's called mmlp2? Because with songs like bad guy, rhyme or reason, berserk, headlights, beautiful pain, rap god etc that's quite the exaggeration.Packman, Shadee and Krabby Patty like this. -
Jun 2, 2015
Or the Parkinson one... Or the Calm Batman one... Or the beef one...
See my point? MMLP2 doesn't have worst lines than those ones and they even if it have they don't ruin that much the songs alone. I am not going to ignore the crazy wordplay and flow of GH because of the pigeons line
Recovery was full of that type of stuffSLAYAR, asvdawg and mynameismyname like this.Jan 6, 2026(This ad goes away when signing up) -
Jun 2, 2015
When people became so sensitive?
When he was talkin about similar s--- in the first 3 albums he was goat
now hes cringe
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