May 10, 2016 Agree, ending got a bit rushed and wishy washy imo. @Arch Dogg you all over this thread so read. Spoiler: my "wtf?" at this movie What was with the bad guy in this movie? like his objective or whatever goes all over the place in this movie (finding this a bit hard to remember but bear with) his timeline of events goes something like -hate avengers, want revenge -cause an elaborate set up to frame the winter soldier as a bad guy so he gets captured -after winter soldier is captured, flip his k--- switch and gain info -find info on other winter soldiers to release on the world and get revenge, also that starks parents were killed by winter soldier -throws everything out the window and starts new plan last second -goes to winter soldiers with the new objective of creating a rift between avengers -does absolutely nothing with the winter soldiers -hah! got my revenge! like it's kinda cool stark's parents being killed have a backstory. but just that guy and his motives being all over the place made this movie less amazing to me. also anyone else surprised Cap didn't die? Feel like that's still potential going to happen with all the Bucky charcter building they're doing.
May 10, 2016 Good question. I'm just going to assume it was some S.H.I.E.L.D. inside info. Black Widow have Cap a file of info on Bucky at the end of Winter Soldier. Maybe it was in there.
May 10, 2016 I agree. Kind of a weird villian. As far as I know his motive is just that his family was killed in Sokovia during Age Of Ultron. He says at the end "I knew I couldn't beat them by myself, stronger men have tried, but if I could get them to beat each other..." So the entire movie he's just trying to set everything up so that they turn on each other. I still don't get why he killed the other winter soldiers though. I really thought at the end of the movie Cap and Iron Man would reconcile and fight them but that didn't happen.
May 10, 2016 From Zola maybe, when he told Hydra has controlled SHIELD since the beginning. He just never mentioned it to Stark.
May 10, 2016 Had the perfect ending tbh. Don't really see how else it could have ended. Probably setting up a Secret Avengers sublot for a future movie. There's 2 more Avengers movies coming out. They're not going to stay enemies. They were barely even enemies. They were in the process of making a truce and stopping Zimo because everything was coming to light. Then he pulled the s--- with Stark's parents. Cap knew about this in Winter Soldier. Zemo was necessary, but ultimately, once again, Marvel drops the ball with the villain.
May 12, 2016 Good points. Hard to believe the MCU as we know it is coming to an end in 3 years. There are no more Cap, Hulk, or Iron Man solo films coming. All we have left is one more Thor movie and the two part Avengers finale and thats it for the original cast. Hopefully Black Panther, Doctor Strange, etc can carry the torch after that.
May 12, 2016 Tbh I thought Zemo was great and easily a better Avenger's villian than Ultron was. Hard to top Loki.
May 12, 2016 All my friends have been grilling me cause the only Marvel movies I've seen (excluding Deadpool) are the first Avengers and the newest Captain America so I downloaded all of Phase One. Watched Iron Man the other night, probably gonna watch The Incredible Hulk tonight since I get off work early and am done with finals
May 12, 2016 Spoiler *Iron Man laying on the ground defeated* "That shield doesn't belong to you. My father made that. You don't deserve it!" *Cap drops shield and walks away* Might be my all-time favorite moment in the MCU.
May 12, 2016 btw fam, for anyone who can't go see this yet, there's a copy up on kickass that looks almost as good as a screener. idk how the fk they managed it
May 12, 2016 Yeah there's some good looking versions of it online. No idea how lmao. But Spiderman will carry the torch. They've gotten their all star back. They're going for a harry potter type deal. He's going to grow up before our eyes through multiple movies.
May 12, 2016 Don't know if anyone noticed, or really looked this far into it, but one of Bucky's trigger words was "Homecoming." I've been adamant about this since we got news that Spidey was coming to the MCU. We need a Russian Kraven the Hunter. Kraven's Last Hunt. Make it happen. The original character might even be Russian already idek.
May 12, 2016 i cant believe the last thing i'll remember about peggy is watching her funeral and then her niece kissing steve after like what the f--- things i wanted: to know who shot jack more peggy/jarvis/howard how peggy founded shield how is sharon and her related anyways (if michaels dead) her life??
May 12, 2016 i would say i was sad about this, but i had a feeling since before the season even finished out that it was going to get cancelled because of bs ratings i'm just pissed off now. like... so many unanswered questions remain. i'm hoping netflix picks up it or someone else... that can't be the end of it all
May 13, 2016 holy f---ing s--- this movie man... loved everything about it cannot f---ing wait for the black panther/spider man movies
May 13, 2016 "The writers clarified early on that the show would explore Peggy's journey until her becoming founder and director of SHIELD (so up until the Agent Carter one-shot where Peggy is appointed SHIELD director by Howard). Anyway, my guess for S3 is that Peggy's brother would turn out to be alive, his death possibly faked so he could join some black ops division, where he committed rather inhumane acts for the sake of victory etc. And all that would have made excellent TV" d--- it that would've been great
