Oct 30, 2015 i literally just said it's a fun catchy ride of a song to me, TWICE in this thread now. I also stated that I loved the interlude that precedes it. the arrangements with the strings are beautiful and then when the track drops in I'm pumped and ready to go. like you just quoted part of why I like it in your effort to tell me i need to tell you why.... only to then ignore it. wat
Oct 30, 2015 "It's a fun catchy ride" and the preceding interlude don't dispute what i said tho.. and i didn't even disagree with you... so?
Oct 30, 2015 It's really just shallow and surface level themes and raps (Yes even Gorgeous, fight me) The only exceptions: h--- Of A Life, Blame Game, LITW, WWSIA
Oct 30, 2015 why do i need to dispute what you said in order to say what I liked about it? it's your opinion, and it's not what I value/look for in the song so it makes no difference to me and what I said this is why this is a pointless debate... because even if I tell you why, if it doesn't line up with your opinions about why a certain song is bad/good/okay it's suddenly like talking to a wall. you can't get it if you don't feel the same way, it's as simple as that.
Oct 30, 2015 No it means you agree with everything i said but just don't find it important. I agree with everything you said and don't find those arguments important. Even this is helping me understand the praise it gets.. it doesn't mean i will necessarily change my opinion tho. THAT'S how and why i debate, i simply wanna understand people better.
Oct 30, 2015 This is what you get for standing out with your opinion and asking people to clarify themselves.. ordinary joel being the predictable like cannon against anything that triggers intellectual debate and critical thinking in this case.. I can already imagine the likes Cyreides will get for going against the person trying to trigger people to word their opinions more clearly.
Oct 30, 2015 Yeh it shows how closeminded you (as those who agree with cy) can be.. The only thing Cy has consistently tried to do is shut down my request to debate a mainstream opinion.
Oct 30, 2015 im not sure why i wasted my time on this... yet again guess this is my punishment for not going to sleep
Oct 30, 2015 I'm open to your interpretations as to why you think this album is overrated but I don't agree with it. Why? I dunno, I don't think about this sort of thing on a deep level. The production on this album is clean and maximalistic (not sure if it's a word but if it isn't just imagine the antonym of minimalistic). It's lyrics self-reflective. That's why I like it. I know you're the type that doesn't like lyrics to be spoonfed to the listener so that's why you dig Yeezus because you like to divulge and dissect the themes/meanings.
Oct 30, 2015 Almost getting there. What do you exactly mean by "clean" because i can hear a lot of distortion on this record. Maximalist i agree but is it really that meaningful if you can't hear all the instruments/voices on AOTL? Can you give examples of lyrics that you genuinely find self-reflective on this record? I don't mind if listeners are spoonfed. I just wanna hear something exceptional, something extraordinary. If it's easy to digest than so be it.. if it's hard than chapeu to you! For example spoonfed lyrics that are out of this world: I like the way you described my take on Yeezus, but that's not the reason why i like yeezus.
Oct 30, 2015 this is what you're not getting we're clearly wowed by different things there's only so much you can hope to understand about someone elses wildly differing opinion before you need to realize you can't get it all if you don't feel the same way m8