Boxing/MMA MMA Discussion Thread

Started by JXY, Nov 24, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Five Star
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    Alright sounds good.
     
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  3. AvB
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    these ped's storys are gettin out of hand now
    someone testing positive after almost every card now
     
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  4. Sahara
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    Yeah, it's not even that shocking to me anymore tbh. It's clear a large portion of fighters are on PED's at this point. People are starting to get caught more because of more testing. I don't think it affects his legacy much either. i'd argue if the majority of fighters are on stuff... it's a level playing field. I've kind of come to accept that it's just part of the sport and it doesn't really affect how i see a fighter. although if a fighter never uses PED's in a sport full of them, i find that very commendable.
     
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    I personally disagree.

    People can speculate and say that everyone is using, but I have a hard time believing that.

    Let's just use this for our rankings system. http://www.ufc.ca/rankings

    Look at the lists and let's see who has been caught using

    Flyweights: Ali B
    Bantamweights: None that I can see. Bruce Leroy got popped for weed, but that is not a PED
    Featherweights: Dennis Siver
    Lightweight: None
    Welterweight: None
    Middleweight: Vitor, Silva (Though to be honest we still need some more clarification in it before we can say 100%, though it seems pretty likely) ans obviously Chael and Wanderlai can be thrown in here to get the numbers up a bit more
    Light Heavyweight: None. Cocaine is not a PED
    Heavyweight: Josh Barnett, Bigfoot Silva, Overeem (speculation due to high T/E)

    Women's Strawweight: None that I am aware of
    Women's Bantamweight: None that I am aware of

    If I missed any I apologize.

    This is just looking at the top 15 in each weight class. A few people obviously got caught but outside of Anderson, who we still need to get more info on, none are really threats to ever be the top guy. Vitor and Barnett both got caught along time ago, and have since cleaned up (TRT aside, I'm not counting that since it was legal). If this is only time Silva did use a PED I'll believe it was for recovery, I still don't condone it, but I would find it hard to believe he used them all along.

    I believe that 80% of fighters are clean, regardless of all the s--- people have been talking lately. Most tests that have been positive were mid to low tier fighters or weren't even PED's. Obviously the GOAT getting caught is a huge blow to everyone, but let's see how it plays out. I still believe that 80% of people are legit clean.
     
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    I realize it's only "who has been caught", but in reality we have nothing else to gauge it off. As far as we know, the rest have not ever done them (though there is a good chance people have). I'm not saying everyone is clean, but I just tend to believe that most people are wholesome in a sense, until proven wrong, which absolutely sucks (much like in this case).

    I don't know it's all a mess right now obviously, I do hope that there was some sort of a f--- up, which there won't be, and it'll somewhat tarnish his legacy in the way that no one will know if he's used them the whole time, or only to rehab his leg.

    I just hope that this will really put pressure on the UFC to step up the testing game a lot more. They need to lead the way in cleaning up the sport, and Askren and all them can talk all the s--- they want about the UFC, but if people are doing it in the UFC, I can guarantee they are doing them in smaller organizations. Let's see how this all pans out, and honestly if we find out in the coming months, years that 80% of people are using PED's I will retract my above statement.
     
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    Also WWE just finished a deal with TapOut, and what better way to start selling TapOut stuff then with people known to wear them. But Sonnen is known to lie and stuff just for attention, so we'll have to wait and see how this turns out.
     
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    On his podcast the other day with Sean Waltman (former WWE Superstar X-Pac) he did say he would be going to WrestleMania and the HOF ceremony this year, but he didn't say the reasoning why other than that he's a wrestling fan
     
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    Jon Fitch popped for elevated testosterone levels, suspended for 9 months.

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    smh
     
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    Silva was clean on the test taken January 19
     
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    Anderson has been pulled from TUF Brazil and replaced by Big Nog.
     
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    Used to not think Ronda was hot... but that SI photo s---t.... d---.
     
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    Just wait till the outtakes with no photoshop on that fishnet. :westbrook:
     
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    Just announced Demetrious Johnson gonna defend the flyweight championship against Kyoji Horiguchi at UFC 186. They cancelled the Rory MacDonald VS Hector Lombard fight. Probably gonna wind up moving it to another date.

    http://jp.ufc.com/news/horiguchi-johnson-set-to-go?id=
     
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    Episode 3



    Wonder if the UFC pulling that fight means Rory does get the shot after all. And im glad Mighty Mouse finally gets a fight, nobody got screwed more then him with Lineker missing weight. Horiguchi is a very entertaining fight but he will have nothing for the champ, this fight to me is a bridge to the Dodson rematch. Little bit surprised that Formiga wasnt given the shot since he has won 3 of 4 against Cariaso, Jorgensen and Makovsky, but the Horiguchi match up is more exciting.

    Gonna be interesting to see what the UFC does with the LHW, MW and WW belts. In a perfect world they would do Jones vs Rumble and Weidman vs Vitor in May and Robbie vs ? and McGregor/Aldo in July. But to me McGregor vs Aldo deserves to be its own main event, just for the sake of seeing what type of draw McGregor actually is. Although we still dont even know how big of a draw Weidman is(162-Silva, 168-Silva and Ronda/Tate II, 175-Ronda), so who knows. Plus Ronda is gonna want to fight again in July-ish as well, although at this point she doesnt really have anyone to fight.
     
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    Hector Lombard the newest UFC fighter to get poppeed for PED's smh
     
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    If we're pulling the stereotypical card I'd say it's not surprising :P. Guy looks a bit beastly.
     
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    It looked kinda obvious that he was on PEDs, but you never know.

    Guess he was though.
     
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    Im trying to think of who they would match Rory with and Lawler is the only fight that makes any sense. Condit is coming back in May but right now isnt the time for that rematch. You look at the rest of the top 10 and Brown/Hendricks are fighting, he beat Maia, Woodley and Saffiedine and DHK is coming off a quick KO loss to Woodley. If they want to throw Rick Story to the wolves i would watch i guess.
     
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    I hope Rory gets his title shot, dude deserves it. I changed my opinion of him after hearing him on the JRE. Rogan does a better job than the media at getting him to open up.
     
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