Kendrick Lamar Best Posts: Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers. OUT NOW

Rodamon · May 21, 2022

May 21, 2022

TheBorgerShop said

You literally just described negatives traits of albums. Like there's a reason why Thriller is the best selling album of all time, you turn that f---er on and that 3 track run from Thriller to Billie Jean is f---ing TIMELESS. Art is supposed to be timeless. That's why TPAB still can be played in 2022. That's why 'Till I Collapse still hits as hard as it does 20 years later. That's why Jimi Hendrix's guitar riffs on Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) are still as complex, deep, and amazing to listen to 50 years later.

While it's true that not every album can be played casually, it's absolutely a clear negative if it has no replay value. There's so many albums that literally get trashed solely because you listen to it once and you don't have a need, or want, to listen to it again *cough* Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse *cough*.

I can list so many songs and albums from hip hop and outside of it that prove the best music is timeless because that's simply a testament to how good it is. If your art cannot age gracefully, it's simply not as good as the rest. That's why d--- is more lukewarm with Kendrick fans nowadays (in comparison to its release) despite it being Kendrick's own favorite album.
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dude d--- has incredibly more replay value than TPAB wtf u on

jankland · May 21, 2022

May 21, 2022

Marsh said

Post has released singles and they all flopped. That will affect his sales for sure.

We will see what happens with Travis, but I think it's looking bad.

Kendrick flopped, that's for sure.
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I hope Eminem flops and also all your favorite pop artists, I want to see you have a 6 year long meltdown about how there's not enough Dua Lipa songs on the radio or some s---.

Enigma · May 21, 2022

May 21, 2022

hargydon said

Music is to be enjoyed as its own entity, not just used to compliment an activity. People would listen to this when they feel like stopping the world & putting an album on, just like you would a book, a movie, a show etc. This is a very normal circumstance for music consumption.

This is the double edged sword with this era, streaming has brought us with a playlist mentality along with instant gratification tendencies. It gives you the ability to expand your horizon with ease but at the same time put something else on immediately. Hearing 5 seconds of a concept album all interconnected & thinking “nah this won’t b--- in the whip, skip” lol. Which also leads to market dilution.

People used to have albums on rotation for 6 months to a year, used to study everything they purchased, sitting down & reading the lyrics till they memorised them, the record’s became integrated into their lives, their routines. Now it’s clowned upon to take time to understand a project that’s been worked on for years.
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Agreed. It’s like we’re seeing the reverse of the “real hip-hop” crowd. Now, it’s the future/Drake etc. fandoms trying to clown rap artists for trying to make non-turn up music. That’s why I think over emphasizing on “replay value” is silly. Like obviously it’s okay to take it into consideration but replay value isn’t everything. Not every album is meant to be played casually or even age with the times. Some albums are just time stamps in history for that particular moment in time. That’s okay.

King Tadpole · May 21, 2022

May 21, 2022

Jerome said

Kendrick did 286k first week, expected more tbh.
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Why expect more? He was gone for 4-5 years, which is an eternity in the social media age. It didn't have any viral singles and it wasn't a radio friendly album. Those are good numbers for what it is.

DKC · May 21, 2022

May 21, 2022

hargydon said

Music is to be enjoyed as its own entity, not just used to compliment an activity. People would listen to this when they feel like stopping the world & putting an album on, just like you would a book, a movie, a show etc. This is a very normal circumstance for music consumption.

This is the double edged sword with this era, streaming has brought us with a playlist mentality along with instant gratification tendencies. It gives you the ability to expand your horizon with ease but at the same time put something else on immediately. Hearing 5 seconds of a concept album all interconnected & thinking “nah this won’t b--- in the whip, skip” lol. Which also leads to market dilution.

People used to have albums on rotation for 6 months to a year, used to study everything they purchased, sitting down & reading the lyrics till they memorised them, the record’s became integrated into their lives, their routines. Now it’s clowned upon to take time to understand a project that’s been worked on for years.
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I'm still someone who puts on full albums 75% of the time. That's what's cool about vinyl to me is that it encourages the full album experience. I don't necessarily agree this album has to be sat down with and paid close attention to 100% of the time to enjoy it though. It's certainly worth sitting down with and reading along with the lyrics at least once, but for me most albums are. I do agree that it was crafted with the full album experience in mind, which I think is true for all of his albums really. Doesn't mean you can't slide some songs into a playlist tho. I'm largely an album person but I don't think all music has to be that.

rapmusik · May 19, 2022

May 19, 2022

jankland said

Can't tell if saying it grows like a plant is somehow a backhanded compliment or not lmfao
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I'm so f---in stoned I've been trying to figure out why the f--- he'd compare it to a plant

Omar Little · May 19, 2022

May 19, 2022

jankland said

Can't tell if saying it grows like a plant is somehow a backhanded compliment or not lmfao
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takes a very long f---ing time to grow but once it's there, it's beautfiul and gives you oxygen? idk

hargydon · May 19, 2022

May 19, 2022

DKC said

how much a dollar cost is sounds like a story someone would write in a 100 level fiction writing class that s--- is so trash lol. what a waste of a beat. Real is monotonous and trash too. I'd take no makeup over those two in an instant.
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I’m actually not a big fan of Real, easily the weakest off of GKMC but still Real > No Makeup all f---ing day.

How Much a Dollar Cost is dope tho. It’s just a parable designed to allow the spiritual tropes to be explored deeper by showing a contrast from the Lucifer character driving the main narrative. Showing how there’s a real life contradiction between what he preaches & how he acts. Beat’s godly too.

I’m confused at the hate for it.

DKC · May 19, 2022

May 19, 2022
also it's nice to finally see people acknowledging that kendrick has always had some goofy/corny/overwrought songs on his albums like No Make Up, Real, How Much a Dollar Cost, etc. where he's on some freshman poetry slam s---

DKC · May 19, 2022

May 19, 2022

M Solo said

This thread is the 2022 version of Rap Basement's 2004 Encore thread. The more things change.....

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tbh outside of the stans/other freaks that inevitably show up for any artist this big no matter how good or bad an album is, I feel like the discourse surrounding this album has been some of the most reasonable and nuanced discussion about a major label album in a long time. I've read a lot of great articles for it that are very balanced in both their praises and their criticism. I like the album, but it's still deeply flawed and I really have appreciated fair assessments from critics (aside from the weirdos who dropped a review giving it 5 stars less than 24 hours after it came out)

David26 · May 18, 2022

May 18, 2022
Here is my ranking of kendrick discography after 1 week of the release of MMATBS

1- GKMC
2 - d---
3 - S80
4 - MMATBS
5 - TPAB

Omar Little · May 17, 2022

May 17, 2022
N95 and Father Time are my favorites after a couple of listens

I still can't get through Disc 2 after the first listen on release day and I've tried

I prefer d--- and GKMC honestly, let's just not fall into the whole "Either complete trash or undeniable classic" bs, why can't an album just be ok?

Packman · May 17, 2022

May 17, 2022
All the songs that I thought were weak are hard as h--- lol this album will age extremely well

Oldboy · May 17, 2022

May 17, 2022

Jerome said

Die Hard is the best track on the album, such a great song.
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Weirdest take on this forum

Chrollo · May 16, 2022

May 16, 2022
I originally quite liked the album but I've hated it since that Eminem tweet
#AntiStan #NeverGonnaAgreeWithHim

The Lyricvore · May 15, 2022

May 15, 2022

asvdawg said

You right bro

Proof:

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The aftermath rollout has officially began…

RG9 · May 15, 2022

May 15, 2022
Loving this more and more with every listen

poopdogg · May 15, 2022

May 15, 2022
This album is just poetry slam for 1 hour and 13 minutes lmao you poor b------s

Yeez · May 14, 2022

May 14, 2022
No matter what you think of the album, i hope we can all agree that Mother I Sober is one of Kendrick’s best tracks

matty007 · May 14, 2022

May 14, 2022

Packman said

The albums been out for less than 48 hours. People hailing it as a classic or claiming it to be the worst thing they've ever heard are hilarious
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48 hours is enough to form an opinion. It’s defo not a classic and it’s far from the worst album ever.

It’s just…meh. And for a Kendrick album, that’s a problem. I mean, Silent Hill is straight trash

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