Oct 11, 2017

My bad. I meant to type Bron.

 

Oct 11, 2017

Guess Ill have to watch the highlights

 

Oct 11, 2017

I'll take kevin love and tristan thompson with a roster full of shooters over marcus smart running point with avery bradley as ur main scoring option lol

 

Oct 11, 2017

He's set to start the 2nd half

 

Oct 11, 2017

I don't know if either team makes the playoff but the Cavs would have to start Deron Williams in this scenario. Marcus Smart isn't a PG but he'a better than D Will. AB and Horford as my main 2 scoring options are better than K Love and JR Smith. Plus the C's have the better coach and they'd be the much better defensive team.

 

Oct 11, 2017

LOL Embiid just pushed Simmons in the back a little bit telling him to drive that s--- in

 

Oct 11, 2017

ima cry

 

Oct 11, 2017

my point is, kyrie struggles to hold a lead even with another all-star on the court, for him to win it takes the (second) greatest player in the world on the court

IT was able to lead a team to a 1 seed and ecf pretty much acting as the sole source of their offense

i dont really see how you could say hes better

 

Oct 11, 2017

IDK if it's possible for a big to be the best player in the NBA anymore but Embid has the best shot at doing it.

 

Oct 11, 2017

tf anthony davis exists

 

Oct 11, 2017

Id take Embid over AD

 

Oct 11, 2017

This me in a quarter of play in MyCareer on 2k.

 

Oct 12, 2017

 

Oct 12, 2017

Dario Saric going for 6th man of the year this season

 

Oct 12, 2017

He's good yea, but not best-in-the-nba level, which Kyrie is. He obviously had a lot more ISO situations than IT because of the Cavs' offense, but IT has less than half the ISO attempts Kyrie has and Kyrie's still more efficient in ISO situations.

"substantially worse" lol the Celtics have one of the more complete teams in the NBA, even last season. If they're worse than the Cavs, fine, but to say they had a substantially worse supporting cast is wrong. It's also important to note that Kyrie was the second option on a team with 3 legit 20 point scorers when IT was the center of that offense. Also, not to mention Kyrie is literally just entering his prime as a 24 year old. Isaiah is a 2(8?) year old with hip issues.

If you want to compare their last season, and say that IT had a better year, that's okay. One crazy year as the #1 option is great, but he's got to sustain that type of production. With the injury, I don't think that's happening again.

Look at you bringing up stats wow

Like Modest said, this stat isn't a fair comparison

Yea it's hard for him to beat the Warriors when LeBron is off the court because the Warriors have the greatest f---ing team ever on the court, but in the regular season Kyrie's offensive production kept them in tons of games down the stretch when LeBron was resting or letting him go to work. And you can't really fault a young 21 year old Kyrie for not carrying the Cavs to the playoffs or something. That's like a once in a generation type player.

 

Oct 12, 2017

yea its just not fair comparing IT and irving when irving was on a team built around lebron

now that irving is in a team system, i'm excited for him

 

Oct 12, 2017

Actually i looked it up and isaiah is the best in the league in iso situations last year and by a pretty large margin lol

https://nbamath.com/the-nbas-most-valuable-isolation-scorers/

I mean, thats kind of exactly what i said lol

Ive been arguing this whole time that kyrie is a downgrade from last years isaiah, who knows how IT will be this year with his hip and what not

who brought up the warriors lol

The stat i posted shows him throughout the regular season when bron is off the court

People will always make excuses for him blaming him being on a team with bron or not having a system built around him. But the fact of the matter is kyrie has shown no ability at really any point in his career that he is able to run an efficient squad as the number 1 option, something Isaiah has proved that he's more than capable of doing.

 

Oct 12, 2017

Never had the opportunity. Like I said he did as a 21 year old, but you can't fault a 21 year old for that.

that's really the only team where his time without lebron on the court was horrible

it wasn't necessarily good during the regular season, but he still kept them in tons of games. something that the actual eye test, which you weigh so much, can prove.

Kyrie is entering him prime as a 24 year old who is still going to improve, and as a number one option with legit players around him, it's fair to assume he'll have just as good if not a better season than IT had. It's also unfair to compare their last seasons because of the completely different situations.

For half the season? Those stats were through mid January... and your telling me a stat that shows Gary Neal as one of the best 2 ISO scorers in the NBA is a good supporting argument?
Plus, stats like that really only look at legit ISO offensive sets, whereas 1-on-1 scoring ability is hard to determine stats-wise. Just watching games will easily show you that Kyrie is way better in 1-on-1 situations.

To go back to my original point a little, there's a reason why Ainge gave up so much extra on top of IT to get Kyrie. IT needs to s--- it up.

 

Oct 12, 2017

In other news, Rodney McGruder is out 3-6 months. Sucks for the Heat.

 

Oct 12, 2017

"Boston, I'm driving in and [thinking], 'I'm really playing in a real, live sports city?" Irving told reporters on Wednesday