Dec 7, 2014

i didn't say the kings s---. they're a respectable team up from being a sucky team in years past. but improvement doesn't all of a sudden mean you're a good team. guess you and i have differing opinions on good teams. i don't consider being barely able to get into the playoffs as a good team. i don't consider a 1st round exit as being competitive. rudy is a nice piece, but other than beating indiana the other night (which they almost lost in the last seconds and got lucky) the kings had lost 14 games without cousins. rudy is not an upper tier player like a kobe, lebron, dirk, etc. he settles for too many jumpers and tries to go 1 on 3 or 1 on 2 way too often. you don't even have to watch kings games to notice it. he did it with memphis and in all fairness did it in toronto cause he was forced to. he is forced to right now cause cousins is out. but he should be able to carry you to wins for some games while the star is out. he's not doing that, never has done that, and it's just not him. it's not a knock on him cause he's still a really good player, but he's not a guy id want in the playoffs as a main option to get the job done.

going to more kings games than you isn't an accomplishment..it's that i actually go to games and probably watch more games than you realize are even on. portland game today was good. always happy to see my celtics wins. watching N.O. right now and think they'll win. what's disconcerning is you calling someone out cause when you don't even know what you're talking about. watch some kings games if you think rudy is a 2nd option. tell me if you'd like him as a main option on your team. mempis didn't so im not alone.

 

Dec 7, 2014

Anybody know where I can stream the Lakers/Pelicans game?

 

Dec 7, 2014

Its so funny watching derek fisher get frustrated at a flop call. That alone would be enough to sit through a Knick game

 

Dec 7, 2014

So disregarding another meaningless paragraph that really has little to nothing regarding what I'm trying to say to you...that's you're argument? He's not LeBron or Kobe? Jesus lmao. Well when you're right, you're right.

 

Dec 8, 2014

nbaliveonline.tv/streaming

 

Dec 8, 2014

to be fair you just lash out without anything to back up your stance. what did i say about the team or rudy that's not true? your reply out of my long post was specifically a kings comment so what am i missing? the only star the kings have is cousins...haha if you disagree you're an idiot. plain and simple. if rudy was a star player he'd be able to carry them certain games. i haven't seen that this year. seen cousins carry them plenty and lead them to wins, but not rudy.

rudy is not a #1 option. his #'s improved in sac cause of cousins. rudy was no longer the main option and teams weren't soley focusing on him like in toronto. without cousins the kings are no better than toronto was with him.

 

Dec 8, 2014

Part of the reason Gay and Collison have such solid numbers is BECAUSE of Cousins. I've watched a fair amount of kings games this year, and without Cousins the Kings are below average for sure. Rudy Gay is solid, definitely not great.

 

Dec 8, 2014

couldnt have said it better. cousins is the ebb and flow of that team. he's the reason players look better. but you can't expect him to always be in the lineup. as a team you have to find a way to win without your star player when it comes to lesser quality teams. you're not gonna expect them to beat high quality teams without him, but you should beat lesser teams like orlando and toronto without him. rudy hasn't carried them to wins as a #1 option so what the f--- is mak talking about?

 

Dec 8, 2014

Your logic is f---ing putrid. Let me make this clear, because your're clearly not grasping this situation correctly, at all.
-You said Sac doesn't have any options besides dmc.
-I said you're f---ing crazy because they have Rudy Gay
-Then you come out spewing a bunch of s--- about Gay not being a good first option and how he's not LeBron or Kobe. Ok?
-I never once said he was or was supposed to be their 1st option, regardless of dmc's health. I said he is a great, sure even good, player and a good option besides cousins.
You're putting words in my mouth. I seem to recall you doing this in this exact thread on SL too. Embarrassing. I don't care how big of a Kings fan you are, I don't care how many Kings games you've been to, because I'm sure you'll go back to that.

 

Dec 8, 2014

actually we never had a kings discussion on the SL thread because the kings s--- and there was no reason to bring them up and get in depth. there's not a member on this forum who's a kings fan and we generaly talk about peoples teams. im also not a kings fan even though im from sac.

i don't know how im putting words in your mouth when im the one that said rudy isn't a 1st tier player but still a good player and you seem to think he, even by your last post, is a great talent. Pinnacle responded also and says he looks as good as he does BECAUSE OF COUSINS. i said sac doesn't have any other *LEGIT* players than cousins. they have other options like rudy and BM and collison, but they aren't and have proven they can't carry you for even a game. if rudy was another legit option then they should have beaten toronto without their leading scorer....they should have beaten indiana by a margin....they should have beaten orlando, but they didn't. im not saying rudy isn't a good piece, but if you're in the playoffs and you have to rely on him i don't like your chances. the kings aren't even a playoff team with him so how in the world can you say he's great? hope i didn't take words out of your mouth but you just said it. the kings have also blown huge leads even with him and cousins....rudy is not the guy who's taking you to the promise land. he's a nice piece, but not a great player. cousins on the other hand is arguably the best big man in the league. i'd take him all day over howard who can't make a jumper and can't make FT's. if we're including anthony davis in the conversation, even though he plays PF, i'd have a harder time deciding. davis is really talented, but on the defensive end cousins is bulky and more of a force....my point is cousins is a star and carries a team. rudy has looked better coming to the kings because he's playing with a legit guy. i don't recall rudy being a star and taking toronto anywhere. it doesn't mean i think he's a bad player or you're wrong for thinking he's a good player, but that's all he is is a good player. he's not, by himself, taking you anywhere. so when i commented on the playoff situation i said the kings don't have another legit option other than cousins. rudy can't even carry you to wins over teams like orlando. they need more talent.

 

Dec 8, 2014

We did. Great logic though. Tough to dispute. Read a little less than half that post. I really don't know how to make this clearer for you than in my last post, so i'm not lmao.

 

Dec 8, 2014

John Wall doe.

 

Dec 8, 2014

unless you're thinking about mine and redsoxx conversations then no we didn't, and even those weren't kings discussions cause NO ONE ELSE brought them up. it was just redsoxx trying to prove a point. hey still think rudy is a great player? kings are down at HOME against UTAH...should be winning by double digits if he's a legit guy right? not saying they won't win, but your over inflated opinion that you seem to think is right is down right annoying..and proven to be wrong multiple games over now. if you could admit you were wrong (or even have a valid opinion) it would be different, but it's not fun anymore. you have no idea what you're talking about. if you think rudy is legit would them losing to utah tonight convince you otherwise? they're down going into halftime...giving you all the right responses dumb f---....

 

Dec 8, 2014

Every single post you've had is you straying away from what I initially said, and have been trying to get across to you for a few posts now. You said the Kings have no second option. I said they do in Rudy Gay. That's all. You just keep posting incoherent essays "explaining" how I think Rudy Gay is the best or whatever the h--- you've been rambling on about. Now I have inflated opinions because I said Rudy Gay is a good second option/player?Jesus Christ do you even read what you're saying? With your logic, Kevin Durant should go 82-0 every year for the rest of his career. I'm not partaking in an "argument" where I drop in IQ points every time I read one of you're 3rd grade level posts. Just stoooop lmfao.

Plz don't respond to this I can't handle anymore lmao

 

Dec 8, 2014

see that's where the disconnect is between us. i said the kings have no legit option other than cousins. i've backed it up with proof that they don't win without him. you've been on record as saying rudy is great but even on a lesser tier just good. i agree he's a good player and that's all. if the kings were a good team they could lean on their *good, above average players* to carry them through some games right? rudy hasn't done that. they're 1-15 without cousins and very well could be 1-16 if they lose tonight. how is rudy a star player again? how is he helping them become a better team and get over the hump?

i don't care about his highlight plays which are few and far between. i care about winning and progressing. the kings still aren't making the playoffs this so how good is rudy really? okc will make it before them....so how good is rudy? im asking for the umpteenth time cause you obviously have no idea.

 

Dec 8, 2014

I just don't get how you're still going at/not understanding this.
I'm well aware you said The Kings have no second option. That's what I used for whats called a "basis or foundation of an argument." Difficult to grasp for you, I know. I said they do in Gay. THAT'S IT. I never said he was a star player. You're saying he should backpack his team and go 16-0 without Cousins? That is your logic. I never said he should carry them without dmc. Getting to be a bit embarrassing, Shady.

 

Dec 8, 2014

can't wait for the kings not to make the playoffs. would love for rudy to be a legit 2nd option..i obviously don't understand where you're coming from. i get that you think that rudy is a really good player and a legit 2nd option. is that gonna be unproven when they don't make the playoffs or what? do they have to lose to many more bad teams before you see that rudy isn't carryig them? only being up by 5 at home against utah is not exactly dominating a game or taking it over. the team still looks bad.

 

Dec 8, 2014

Great post man

 

Dec 8, 2014

might not be, but more coherent than your logic. i'll be sure to mention or quote you and admit im wrong when rudy becomes a dominant piece.