Dec 24, 2019

Foles literally has put together a regular season better than any of Cousins’, and is unreal in the post season. When all is said and done, if you find a person that says, “d---, would have rather had Kirk Cousins’ career over Foles’” then that person will be clinically insane and should be put into a nursing home immediately for help.

 

Dec 24, 2019

This isn’t true. At the end of the day though, neither are probably franchise QBs though Cousins is closer to that because he brings you high level play more consistently than Foles.

 

Dec 24, 2019

Foles brought you guys a Superbowl, so naturally you're going to always love him. but being consistent matters a lot more than a one hit wonder. this is why you guys shipped Foles away and signed Wentz to a massive deal.

if you don't think Cousins can lead a team all the way, that's fine. but its hard to determine which QB's can do that. in the right situation, we've seen Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer win it all

and Boos, the year ya'll won the Superbowl, you had a MUCH better regular season. the eagles were CONSISTENTLY good that season. the only reason ppl doubted the Eagles at the start of the postseason in 2017 is because they lost Wentz. ANY team is going to get doubted if they lose their starting QB. this season, the Eagles have been wildly inconsistent and are clearly the worst team in the NFC playoffs assuming they make it. plus you guys are riddled with injuries....so i don't know why you're so confident.

 

Dec 24, 2019

I’ll take Foles’ 27-2 season over any of the seasons Cousins has put together. That guy literally can’t ever win a game that matters, where Foles does nothing but perform in games that matter. Nick Foles with the Eagles is completely different than him with another team, and frankly, idc about what he does with another team because I know what he does with that midnight green on. Neither Cousins nor Foles are a QB I would want to have as my starting QB though. I’d rather have Foles on my roster though as a Marino Rivera type closer. To me, that’s more valuable than endless 9-7 or 10-6 seasons going out in the wild card round, and that’s Cousins. You keep saying worse QBs won the big game, but that’s the thing, they actually show up. Cousins is a detriment to whatever team he is on in meaningful games. I’ll s--- on a plate and eat it then post a video on SXN80 Trent style of that ever happens.

As for the Eagles this year, we’ll be in the NFC title game if we get Seattle in the first round. And I know it’ll make y’all sick.

edit: Foles also isn’t a one hit wonder. Left the field with the lead in the playoffs in 2013 before Cary f---ing Williams facemasked Sproles on the kick returner for the Saints. Then, he brought us to the playoffs last year when we were dead in the water, won a playoff game with an all time last minute drive, and then was on his way to do it again before dinky Alshon dropped the game away.

 

Dec 24, 2019

I’m with Boos, in fact I’d prefer to have any QB with a super bowl win over all the QBs we’ve had without one.

Kirk may be better than Foles mostly but who gives a s--- if Kirk can never win a big game? Point of the season is to win enough to get in the playoffs, point of the playoffs is to get to the super bowl.

it’s about Ws in the end, not stats in October. Also yes I know it’s a ‘team game’ but there’s clearly QBs like Brady and Wilson who consistently know how to win in big games and there’s clearly QBs like Kirk, who don’t.

 

Dec 24, 2019

This was basically my point, and was trying to empathize with you guys last night but then it turned into this big thing lol

 

Dec 24, 2019

but you don't know whether or not he can win a big game. we would have beat seattle on monday night this season if it wasn't for our defense. do you really think that Ravens or Buccaneers fans ever thought they'd win a Superbowl with Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer lol

Boos is bias. Nick Foles is so great that he got benched for a rookie QB and has hopped from team to team throughout his career which is a sign of inconsistency

 

Dec 24, 2019

That 27-2 season was largely a product of having a great supporting cast though. Yes, Foles played well but not nearly as well as his box score numbers suggest. Chip Kelly’s offense was manufactured to get QBs a lot of easy, short & fast completions while having play makers get YAC. Hence why Foles hasn’t been able to replicate anything close to that season—box score wise—since.

If the question is: which QB is better? We can’t sit here & pretend like Foles has been capable of being a reliant starter for an entire season. He has not. He’s played very well in pockets of a handful of games. As up & down as Cousins has been throughout his career, he’s played like a top 10 QB (this season included) for multiple franchises now. Say what you want about “big moments”—Cousins definitely has his troubles in that area but he at least leads his team to those big moments while Foles has rode the bench & just so happened to be given the opportunity to play in those moments. As impressive as Foles performance was in that Eagles Super Bowl run; let’s not inflate what it is. We’re talking about two games (NFCC & Super Bowl) where he played great football. He’s never played great over the course of an entire season or even half a season. With that being said, if I’m forced to choose between the two to be my franchise QB, I’m choosing the one who’s at least shown he’s capable of being a top 10 QB throughout an entire season.

This...doesn’t really make sense though. If you acknowledge that Cousins is better why would you prefer Foles? Foles having a ring does nothing for you. He’s a worse QB & thus would make your team worse. You wouldn’t even make it to those “big games” with Foles as your starting QB over the course of the season. He was benched for like a 6th round rookie QB ffs lol.

 

Dec 26, 2019

@dna hits

big ben recently said he'll be back stronger and better in 2020. so we know he'll play at least one more year

my question is this.....do you want him back? many of the steelers fans i've talked to about this.....don't want big ben back. i personally think, even at his age now, that he's better than the other QB's the steelers currently have.

 

Dec 26, 2019

Before the super bowl I’d probably be fine with a borderline top 10 QB like Cousins, but after getting a taste of a super bowl, f--- that. I would never be satisfied with some bum who will never get it done. Do I want Foles as my starter? No. Would I rather have Foles or Cousins on my roster? Foles because I know he can get it done when it matters if my starter goes down.

 

Dec 26, 2019

I don’t really like arguing with Enigma cuz it can go on for hours and I feel he never gets my point anyways..

All I was trying to say is I’d prefer to have any QB who won a super bowl on my team cuz then the Vikes would have a ship and that’s what it’s all about.

I tried to be optimistic bout Kirk and his reputation, thought maybe it was overblown cuz he was on the s-----y redskins. Thought things would change on a good team like the Vikings. But naw he looks like a completely different QB when the pressure is on and we’ve seen enough examples by this point.

with that said it’s not all on him, Zimmer has lost almost every big game he’s ever been in too, and the ‘elite’ defense often falls apart in big games. They lost this past Monday mainly cuz the o-line but Kirk didn’t help.

but yeah a QB who can put up stats and win against a s-----y team in the regular season but not any good team in a big game is basically worthless imo..what’s the point? Honestly he’s a perfect fit for the Vikings though based off their history. Beat the easy teams and lose the big games, that’s what the Vikes consistently do.

 

Dec 26, 2019

Anyways I guess we were discussing Foles vs. Kirk, and yeah I’d easily take Foles’ career over Kirk’s. He won a super bowl, was a big part of their success and beat Tom friggin Brady to make it happen.

that’s easily better than anything Cousins has done in his career, or even everything combined for that matter.

 

Dec 26, 2019

If Foles started week one for the Eagles in 2018, do you think the Eagles still win the Super Bowl that year? I feel like you know deep down that Nick Foles is just a poor man’s Eli Manning.

Ooof...no wonder this forum is dead with mindsets like this. Anyways, I thought you meant you’d prefer Foles as your QB because he has ring w/ the Eagles. I didn’t know you meant, I prefer him because that would mean the Vikings would have a ring.

 

Dec 27, 2019

Who knows, but one thing I do know is we would’ve never won with Cousins. With Foles from week one? Probably not. With Cousins from the moment we took the lead in the super bowl? We still would’ve lost. Foles is more valuable on a roster than Cousins. That’s my point. If you’re making a run and Dak gets hurt (I know it’s contradictory with Dak and making a run but just go with me lol) you’re saying you'd rather have Cousins fill in than Foles? If so then lmaoooooo

 

Dec 27, 2019

I think the “clutch” gene in football is largely overemphasized. I’m too empirical of a person to believe that there are players that just always fall apart in all big games/big moments. I think what often happens is that a narrative is built & people nitpick games to support/build up that narrative. What constitutes as a big game in the NFL? Divisional games? Prime time games? Playoffs? Etc. I think what we often see is when players who are known as “chokers” play well in any of these games, it gets ignored while if they play poorly, it’s all of a sudden considered a “big game.” How many interceptions did we see Peyton throw in his career in “big games?” A ton but that narrative didn’t really stick. People still praised him as an all time great QB. It’s all public perception.

With that being said, yeah I’d probably pick Cousins over Foles because of his performance over a larger sample size. With Foles, I’m banking that lightning will strike twice since he’s known as “clutch” because of two postseason games lol.

 

Dec 27, 2019

I think with Manning it’s completely different. That narrative was sort of bs to begin with. He was the best QB in the league for years at his peak, and simply couldn’t win a super bowl after leading his team to multiple double digit undefeated starts and number one seeds. Cousins on the other hand is fringe top 15 imo, and has yet to win any game that has mattered entering November. He’s never led his team to anything substantial seeding wise, win wise, or really divisional wise. In the East, he won the division because it was f---ing terrible. I just don’t see how you would be satisfied with your team signing him — to top dollar at that — knowing he is not ever going to get it done.

Foles also has been more clutch than just the 2017 run of two games. In 2013, he took us down the field in the final minutes to take the lead only for the defense and special teams to f--- it up. Not to mention, we were in the game because Foles went to Dallas the week before and won on the road to win the division on a late game drive if I recall. Last year, we were dead in the water. Got out a--- kicked by the Saints and then a week later lost to you guys in overtime. The season was all but over. Then Wentz went down and a week later we went to LA, the best team at the time, and beat their a--- with Foles. Then beat the Texans on a final drive of 90 plus yards in the final minutes. Foles got destroyed by Clowney, was hurt, but only missed one play on that drive. Went to Washington the next week and took care of business. Then in the playoffs he took us down the field in the final minute to beat an amazing bears defense. And would’ve done the same against the saints if dinky a--- Alshon didn’t drop the season away. I’m not buying the narrative of Foles only having a clutch two game stretch. Foles in an Eagles uniform is magic.

 

Dec 28, 2019

Birds are winning the bowl. Carson is the goat. Just wait.

 

Dec 28, 2019

44 years ago today the Cowboys the "Hail Mary" for the first ever time.

 

Dec 29, 2019

we don't have anything go gain--were locked into the 6th seed no matter what---so zimmer decided to rest most of our starters. it'll be nice to see some of our guys who usually don't get a chance to play

 

Dec 29, 2019

Dolphins are slaughtering the patriots. Lmfao at that pick 6 Brady. Worst pick of 2019.