NFL NFL Discussion Thread

Started by Kevin, Nov 23, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Detroit24
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  2. JEB
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    Agreed
     
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  3. dna hits
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    He’s good no doubt. But Jonathon Taylor is more of a NFL rb tbh. It takes multiple guys to take him down. CEH can juke, but that’s it. As soon as someone touches him, he loses his balance. JT was my most favorite rb to watch in college since Lesean McCoy. Watch Taylor’s highlights. He’s a total workhorse like Josh Jacobs. I’m glad the ravens didn’t take him, like a few analyst picked for their mock draft.
     
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    TimmyT Self-Taught

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    this is more of a superstitious point of view, but 1st round WRs often times don't pan out. i've seen it time and time again. sure, there's exceptions. but the majority of the time they just don't end up living up to the hype. maybe this year will be different since this is suppose to be such a deep receiver class
     
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  5. Detroit24
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    Agreed, thought 3 at most

    there was 6 WR drafted...half of them won’t produce too much in the 1st year...injuries, coach doesn’t think they are ready...qb doesn’t trust them...older wr beat them out...

    Overtime I have noticed 1st rd defensive players are best bank for plug in and play for first year or two...offensive linemen too

    very rare for a bunch of WR to have big rookie years...because of being such a dependent position...

    David Carr to Henry Ruggs
    Drew Locke to Jerry Jeudy
    Dak Prescott to Ceedee Lamb
    Carson Wentz to Jalen Raegar
    Kirk Cousins to Justin Jefferson
    Jimmy Garapollo to Brandon Aiyuk
     
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  6. Detroit24
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    initially going into the draft I thought he was the best too...after back to back monster years...but d’andre swift from Georgia was rated higher apparently...was suppose to goto Miami

    And Jonathan Taylor does not suit KC offense...CEH is perfect for what andy Reid/Mahomes do,,,he is more like Kareem hunt/Damien Williams ...jonathan Taylor would not suit that offense...

    Still hoping Bills take Taylor or jk dobbins if he’s still around in 2nd or 3rd rd to go with Devin Singletary
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    lack of production was mainly due to poor QB play last season. He’s a h--- of an athlete & pretty explosive.
     
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    He’s a midget and Wentz is great but not the most accurate. If Raeger needs a perfectly placed ball to make plays then he’s useless
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    If Kristian Fulton continues to fall in the 2nd round, I’mma need Jerry Jones to hit up these GMs like...




    I’d trade a 2nd & 3rd to go up for Kristian Fulton in the 2nd round.
     
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  10. TimmyT
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    the 1st round WRs who do turn out good are the rare types like randy moss, larry fitzgerald, julio jones, deandre hopkins....in other words the type of guys who don't come along that often.

    anyway i'm not saying i'm not happy with our pick (i don't know anything about the guy) i was just making an observation and its a pretty good one IMO
     
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    Jefferson had a great season...consistent productivity...but keep in mind that offense was unreal...LSU will have plenty draftees every position this year from their unreal season

    hopefully he turns out be a Randy Moss for your sake...
     
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  12. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    its mainly a learning curve thing. WRs have one of the biggest learning curves coming into the NFL. Their production jumps like 85% or something crazy in their second year.
     
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    true, it’s definitely a 3yr commitment plan...it’s such a dependent position in my opinion that it’s risky to take so many in 1st rd

    Ceedee Lamb won’t be expected too much of him in 1st season which is great for his development...considering depth chart...

    Jerry Jeudy / Henry Ruggs will get enough targets and are expected to step in right away as a #1

    David Carr / Drew Locke as your QB is questionable but will see
     
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  14. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    It’s such a valuable position though (2nd most valuable in the sport). WRs yield the most WAR (wins above replacement) & EPA (expected points added) than any position other than QB. Outside of QB, no position is going to score you more points & win you more games than your receiving corps. Also, when you don’t have a consistently top 10 QB, it’s a real boost for your offense. Look at Vikings w/ Cousins in recent years; Dallas w/ Dak; San Francisco w/ Garoppolo etc. It’s worth the risk imo.

    I think people just have these huge expectations that 1st round WRs are suppose to be HoFers. That’s not necessarily the case. Henry Ruggs reminds me of Santana Moss & I know most my friends were like “well he better be better than that” but Moss was a very productive & explosive player throughout his career lol. If Ruggs is as good as Moss, that’s good value!
     
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    Jefferson was pretty easily the best player available at a position of need for the Vikings. They made the right pick, considering what was left..and I originally wanted them to go o-line.
     
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    thanks for the info on Jefferson.

    don't get me wrong, my expectations for 1st round WR's aren't super high---like @Enigma was saying WR is a harder position to transition from when coming from college and entering in the the pros. every draft pick isn't going to be like hitting a home-run. i'm not expecting all these guys to be superstars

    my point is....often times 1st round WRs aren't even productive players in the league. the last 1st round WR we took was Laquon Treadwell in 2016. the other 1st round WRs in that same draft:

    -Will Fuller
    - Corey Coleman
    - Josh Doctson

    now sure this is only one draft class, but i've seen this happen enough where it seems like a trend. anyway its just my opinion and its kind of a superstitious view but i can't be the only one who has noticed this....
     
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  17. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    i really do think this pick will grow on you. Watching some of his film again & while he’s small, he has great ball skills for someone that small. Crazy speed.



    plus y’all drafted whiteside last year right? He’ll improve in year 2.
     
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    The initial anger is wearing off and the pick isn’t that bad now lol. Plus I like the idea of the nick name the Reagulator so he better ball out.

    As for JJAW he’s a certified bum. I doubt that guy gets a second contract in the league unless he drastically improves. He’s a good who desperately needed a full offseason program and now that’s down the drain
     
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    I think the Steelers go all the way this year. We already chased Tom Brady out of the AFC
     
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  20. dna hits
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    Okay good s--- Steelers. I really like Claypool. He definitely has the nfl size and speed. Very aggressive WR who fights for the ball. d--- good pick actually. Red Zone threat. Him, Juju, and Johnson will be very tough for defenses. I sort of wanted them to risk Dobbins tbh. I was so f---ing nervous Tomlin was going to talk them into taking Jalen first pick. I would have broke something and I’m not joking.

    Also lol at someone changing the banner to f---ing politics where about 3 people post at. The NFl draft is literally a holiday for sports fans. We at least had some people discussing the draft here yesterday, after I bannered it. @Slyk I know some things are out of your control, but you should really consider who can banner threads for the forums benefit. Not change it just to try and make someone mad. That’s sad. Any new member comes here and sees a political banner, they’re going to exit out real quick. It’s not like there’s any major music releases going on. I do a banner to draw traffic and discussion, which works. Most of the others make a s-----y banner out of anger with no one even posting in the thread. I know 2 people irl who schedule off work for Thursday and Friday just for the draft.
     
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