Jan 22, 2015

ZZZ wake me up when its the Superbowl, ESPN is the worst thing going right now.

 

Jan 22, 2015

Goodell should just suspend every Pat that touched the ball last week for one game. Seems fair to me.

 

Jan 22, 2015

This story is getting so sickening.... Has the NFL even came out with evidence connecting the Pats to the deflated balls? Balls were checked before the game and were fine according to refs.

 

Jan 22, 2015

Exactly. Super Bowl buildup is too much and so overkill as is and now we're gonna have to hear about this dumb a--- story for two weeks. There's no proof that they did this intentionally and it didn't effect the outcome of the game. The best team won. Move on.

 

Jan 22, 2015

 

Jan 22, 2015

Yaa thatsaaaa no bueno

 

Jan 22, 2015

Alright @Fitz 's shift should be starting soon. Will he say Brady is innocent or guilty? If innocent, why? Lack of proof?

 

Jan 23, 2015

lmao shift starts at 11p, down time just starting so here i am.

Bill was more believable than Tom though, I'll say that.

This is what I believe:

- Brady tells Pats staff he likes the balls deflated as much as possible.
- Ball boys go to the absolute minimum before testing.
- Brady has no knowledge about anything afterwards..

Here are my questions (some of these will NEVER have answers):

Does Brady tell the ball boys to deflate them after testing?

Do the ball boys do it on their own accord

Where are the NFL officials after they're tested)?

Do they deflate them on the sidelines?

I know that Mortensen has reported that they're 2psi below NFL regulations, but there hasn't been any OFFICIAL word about that, so what if the 11/12 balls were at 12.49? (to me, this exonerates the Pats.)

I want more information. Otherwise, it's all open to interpretation. I want facts, not opinions.

Point blank, this is a very MINOR infraction. People need to do their research. The punishment is usually only a 25,000 fine... There's not going to be any suspensions, draft pick losses, or anything. Panthers/Vikings were caught heating balls on the sideline of a freezing game, and know what their punishment was? A warning.

The only way I see them coming down hard on the Pats is if there's OVERWHELMING evidence, and they want to appeal to public demand. I could see a 75,000 dollar fine, but nothing else, really. They can't justify, even if it is a second offense, to going from 25,000 to losing draft picks and suspensions. That doesn't make any sense.

 

Jan 23, 2015

Bellichick better make these ball boys some coaches in the future for not snitchin

 

Jan 23, 2015

Key differences?

Sherman has two elite safeties behind him, plays on one side of the field, and is normally in zone.

Revis has one good safety behind him (who doesn't even protect Revis over the top usually, he protects Browner), and is ALWAYS matched up against the offense's best receiving option.

When QB's target Revis this season? Their overall QBR is LESS THAN 30.

Sorry, Sherman is a great cornerback, but Revis is in a league of his own.

 

Jan 23, 2015

Anyways, can we discuss the Seahawks vs Pats now, or do we have to wait for more balls talk?

This game is such a great match-up, really wanna know what everyone's predictions are.

 

Jan 23, 2015

Sherman has been better than Revis for the last few years, including this one....that's generally known.. the way you're talking about it as if the opposite is fact, is absurd lol

Not saying PFF is the end all be all but it's pretty the industry standard and coaches use it.. their rating system includes the most important stats only, ones that effect the game.

The goal of our detailed grading process is to gauge how players execute their roles over the course of a game by looking at the performance of each individual on each play. We look beyond the box score and study the tape to grade how well each player performs on each play, and as a result over the course of a game and a season. How well a lineman blocks on a given play, how much space and help a runner receives, how effectively a pass rusher brings pressure or how well a defender covers a receiver.

Revis



Sherman



Sherman grades out pretty significantly better.

Those numbers might seem abstract, but they come from a play-by-play analysis of both players on every snap of the game, giving them credit for impressive plays in the biggest situations and assigning blame when they blow plays regardless of the outcome of those plays. In short, those numbers are the most comprehensive analysis you will find of their play, and they stack up extremely closely.

You say he plays zone, on one side like that's all he does and it's a simple thing. He's also heavily involved in stopping run, way more-so than Revis. It's about doing your job I thought? Not to mention Sherman actually plays a lot of Man to Man. Not only on his split corner spot, but in the slot. Seattle mixes in a lot of man with their cover 1/3. Sherman does his job better than any other corner, it's just a fact right now. It wouldn't be "changing their strategy" to throw Sherman out in a lot of man-to-man situations lol here's a pretty ordinary example of him in man-to-man, on Crabtree.

 

Jan 23, 2015

MOSSED

 

Jan 23, 2015

I think Pats win the Superbowl 28-24, and put haters to rest who claim they never won anything since "cheating"

 

Jan 23, 2015

There shouldn't be any doubt the pats did it. No ones saying it effected the outcome. But it just brings up, how long have they been doing it? And they still need to be punished cause rules were broken, bottom line. Doesn't mater how small or big a deal it is.

 

Jan 23, 2015

The Pats being able to get the whole cheating thing off their backs is already gone for this year. The media won't let that go if they win, and neither will non fans.

 

Jan 23, 2015

A cowboys fan who's in jail is trying to sue the NFL for over 88 billion dollars for the Dez play, lmao.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowb...g-for-88-billion-in-suit-vs-nfl?ex_cid=espnFB

 

Jan 23, 2015

 

Jan 24, 2015

Actually didn't realize most of this, good s---.

I'd just choose Revis, I've been saying this since 2009, might just be off of reputation, and how he single handedly changed one of the worst secondaries (of all time) to one of the best in the NFL.

But, yeah those are some really good arguments for Sherman.

I will say this though, as far as helping the run, when you play more man coverage, you're less likely to help on the run, because your back gets turned to the ball and you're playing the receiver more than the zone, so it's harder to read the guards and tackles (a key way of determining a running play), than if you are in zone coverage (because your facing forward for the most part)....

Seattle's defense is more based on read and react, while the Patriots defense is more aggressive based (granted, there are times they attempt zone coverages, like Baltimore game especially, and they fail miserably)...

I think my comments on Sherman came off wrong. I'm not discrediting him at all. Just because he plays one side of the field, doesn't mean I don't think he's a slouch at all.

Zone is TOUGH to play, and Seattle might be the one team I've seen in a long time to excel at it. When I played, I disliked zone a lot, because you have a ton of responsibilities.... but then again, I was a linebacker/defensive end, so I had a bit more responsibilities than a corner back.

Zone, I think, takes more knowledge and instinct, while man to man is more technique based and requires more skill.

I just have HIGH praise for Revis. I've been praising him since his Jet days, and you know how much I hate them.

I'd really like to see the percentages between Revis and Sherman in regards to who plays more zone vs man. I'm not naïve enough to think Sherman NEVER plays man to man, but I know Revis excels at it, probably better than anybody I've ever seen at doing it. As a matter of fact, more of the balls caught on Revis this year were out of zone, not man to man.

I just think Sherman benefits a ton off of Thomas/Chancellor. It's hard to determine who's more important, but I know with zone that safeties are much more important than a cornerback in that scheme (again, not saying Sherman never plays zone, but the scheme is what I'm talking about) because their safeties are able to cover the deep ball AND cover the holes in the zone.

Edit: I posted more about this on the next page...

 

Jan 24, 2015

I honestly don't think there's any proof they did anything wrong, hence why the NFL is stalling lol.

I wonder what would happen if the NFL exonerates the Patriots before the Super Bowl?