Feb 2, 2015

Edit: b------ deleted his video after it blew up and he looked like a dumbass. Trying to find a back up

 

Feb 2, 2015

I love going on facebook and seeing all the 49er fans scrambling to defend Montana as the GOAT still lol

 

Feb 2, 2015

They always will, and use the argument that he went 4-0 in Super Bowls. I never saw joe play for SF so I don't make that argument. But based on what I know from history and I've seen from Brady. I'd say Brady>Montana.

 

Feb 2, 2015

Yeah the 4-0 Super Bowl argument is really the only thing I'm seeing. Also the 11 TD's and 0 interceptions in those Super Bowls as well I saw a couple times. What separates Brady from Montana to me is really the fact that Brady has done what Montana has with not as much of a supporting cast around him. Montana had a consistently great defense in San Francisco, something Brady hasn't had the pleasure of having on a consistent basis in New England. Montana played with the greatest reciever in NFL History in Jerry Rice, Brady had a 30+ year old Randy Moss for a couple years which is the closest he's gotten to a "Jerry Rice". Also Montana benefitted from one of the greatest if not the greatest offensive mind the NFL has ever seen in Bill Wash and while Brady has had Belicheck, his speciality is on the defensive side of the football.

 

Feb 3, 2015

the 4-0 argument is f---ing awful because all that means is Montana failed to get to the Superbowl more times than Brady. Losing in the Superbowl will always be more successful than getting knocked earlier in the playoffs.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Montana ran into that 85 Bears defense one year, Got hurt in another, and had Roger Craig fumble away a NFCC. I think Joe would have 6 rings if not for the last two. Just like Brady SHOULD have 6 as well if not for the GIants miracle plays. The Roger Craig fumble was the worst though, caused that them a 3 peat.

I agree with @Enigma on all points. Montana had the weapons and coaches to succeed. Brady had less to work with.

Most 49ers fans I know just don't want to admit someone may be better than our Joe. As a 49ers fan, I have no problem admitting Tom>Joe. Maybe it's because, like I said, I didn't see Joe play. Now on the other hand no one in this world will ever convince me that anyone was/is better than Jerry Rice.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Jerry Rice is without a doubt the greatest reciever of all time but I think Calvin Johnson will go down as the Dan Marino of wide recievers, if that makes sense. His numbers are still great but if he had a more consistent QB throughout his career, god knows what he would of been able to accomplish. In terms of pure ability, I've never seen a reciever as dominating as Megatron.

That's why I hate when Cowboy fans are like "Dez is better than Megatron, look at the number." Dez has a highly efficient Romo throwing him the football, Megatron has Stafford who has a lot of up and downs throughout a season.

 

Feb 3, 2015

I would trade Calvin for Dez.

 

Feb 3, 2015

I get what you're saying about Johnson being like Marino, same could be said about Fitzgerald. I'd take Dez over CJ today, but Megatron from a few season ago, wow. Too bad Josh Gordon is a f---ing r----- though.

 

Feb 3, 2015

I'll raise you Brady's 08 injury, the 06 AFC title game, the David Tyree helmet catch and the Welker drop. Brady is a lot closer to 6 then Montana was and 4-2 will always be better then 4-0 .

 

Feb 3, 2015

I agree. And hasn't Brady broke nearly all of Montana's postseason records? He also has a 16-0 season which nobody else has ever done. Also keep in mind Brady ain't done yet. I bet he plays another 3-5 years. If he can squeeze out one more championship there will be no debate.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Brady's 08 injuries was week 1 not in the playoffs, I talked about the giants games and you could swap the 06 title game with the tuck rule game. What if Rivers and Tomlinson weren't injured in 07? We could sit here and play the what if game all day. Montana had a better cast around him and what if Brady didn't have the most clutch kicker ever?

2 all time great players that played in different eras, different rules. Brady is the best player of modern era, Montana of his. 1a and 1b.

 

Feb 3, 2015

lol oh boy

Rivers and Tomlinson? forreal?

Are you saying that Brady wasnt closer to having 6 then Montana? just clarify that for me real quick lol

 

Feb 3, 2015

Yeah for real, Chargers couldn't punch it in and settled for FGs. Never know how that game would've turned out if Rivers wasn't hurt and SD hadn't been playing without arguably the best RB in football at that time.

No I'm not saying Montana is closer than Brady. Obviously Brady was in 6 vs Montana in 4. We're just sitting here discussing what if and scenarios and s--- that really doesn't matter in the end. With that said, like I've said before. I'd take Brady over Montana. The s--- that man did just this post season alone is godly. Two 14 point comebacks vs Ravens, 10 point comeback on the LOB.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Thats interesting that you would mention Rivers and Tomlinson, considering what the Pats were without last season. Might wanna brush up on that one lol.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Why do football players get recognition in the same way as a basketball player? To watch how they actually play(ed) the game tells the story, not their stats, win/loss record, or any individual achievement. There isn't a single player in the league who would make the worst teams an instant contender, yet a single QB, WR, or RB gets HUGE amounts of credit for team success. Put LeBron, prime Kobe/Jordan on ANY team in the NBA, and they're a playoff contender, at the very least. Put prime Montana, Brady, Manning, or whatever other superstar you want, on ANY team in the NFL, and they might be better, but they don't instantly leap into playoff contention.

I'd take Brady over Manning to build a franchise around. However, I'd take Manning over Brady to complete an already built franchise.

 

Feb 3, 2015

What team could you put Brady on where they wouldnt make the playoffs right away?

You could put Lebron on the Wolves and they wouldnt make the playoffs. There's really no NBA stars doing it by themselves either, Lebron needed Wade and Bosh in a sport where only 5 guys are playing at one time. Also there are more teams in each conference that make the playoffs in the NBA. You expand the NFL playoffs to 8 teams in each conference and Philly, SF, SD and KC make the playoffs.

QB is the most important position in the NFL, WR and RB arent in even in the same ball park. Im not sure you saw the team Brady brought to the AFC title game last year. That team was fucken battered.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Imo elite QBs like Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, Brees and Luck could even give s-----y teams a chance. Just look at the Colts for example, they don't have much other than Luck yet made it to the AFC championship. Packers would be awful if it wasn't for Rodgers, just look at how they did without him last year. There's some exceptions but the very best QBs usually can at least give their teams a chance.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Just saw this angle, fucken awesome.

 

Feb 3, 2015

Exactly. The Colts were what, 2-14 without Peyton Manning the year he got hurt? Pretty much 13-3 every year with him. You could put Aaron Rodgers on any team in the NFL right now and they'd be a playoff team.