May 14, 2015

As to why the Broncos got a lesser fine? Umm I have no idea man, don't know anything about that situation.

 

May 14, 2015

man, if you really believe that, i don't even understand why you watch the NFL. you're basically saying that the league isn't equally fair to all 32 teams.

they do make mistakes you know

 

May 14, 2015

Explain the two Spy Gate penalties then.

Broncos should've been penalized SEVERELY for doing the same thing as the Pats, but only got 50K fine compared to a 500K fine and a loss of a 1st round draft pick.

You know why people didn't care? Because the Broncos s----d a--- in 2010.

 

May 14, 2015

Fitz probably sees Goodell as the evil Vince McMahon from the late 90s/early 2000s.

 

May 14, 2015

^Well he does have ties to the Jets.

Cant be trusted

 

May 14, 2015

I don't think Goodell is the bad guy. I don't even blame the NFL for the penalties, necessarily. They're trying to run a business, and they can tell the entire country HATES the Pats for their success over the last 15 years.

I understand the system they have in place. It's why they changed to the salary cap and why they created 4 team divisions in both conferences for scheduling purposes. They came up with a formula to prevent "dynasties" in the NFL. They wanted parody and different teams to have opportunities every year.

The NFL doesn't like the Patriots or Steelers success. They want new rivalries and fresh title runs every year.

The NFL LOVES what's going on in the NFC every season. However, I truly believe they despise the way the AFC plays out every year, and specifically the Patriots.

I also think that they hate Belichick's arrogance, but I didn't want to bring that up.

 

May 14, 2015

when the NFL has to punish a team for breaking the rules, whatever punishment they hand out is NOT an easy decision. it's hard to decide how severely a team/player should be punished.

they make mistakes just like another human. after the ray rice incident happened, roger the rabbit ADMITTED that he got it wrong. he admitted it should have been more than the 2 games they initially gave out for what rice did.

but yeah sorry fitz, the pats punishments aren't worse because they're "so successful"

last time i checked multiple NFL teams have been more successful than the pats

 

May 14, 2015

lol timmy you can't truly believe the difference between a 500K and first round draft pick loss, to a 50K fine is an honest "mistake", can you?

It's pretty black and white, bro. They committed the same infraction, and AFTER the Patriots. It was a no brainer that the Broncos should've been destroyed by penalties for doing that. How can you not see that?

It's not just one "human" making a mistake with these penalties... it's a collection of individuals. It's not like Goodell is acting alone, or pressing a button and going "OOPS"

You're naive if you think the NFL doesn't have an agenda. Seriously. And I'm talking about with ALL penalties, not just the Pats. They went low with Ray Rice's penalties because they thought it'd be swept under the rug, since he's a high profile super star.

It's why they didn't even penalize Suggs for pouring bleach all over his wife and kid.

If there wasn't a video tape of Ray Rice beating his wife, Goodell would've NEVER apologized. He didn't think the tape would leak.

It's also why they were so reluctant to admit to brain injuries being football related.

The way the NFL is run is bs. The sport is just ridiculously entertaining, so it's why it stays on top.

And NO team has been remotely as successful as the Patriots have been since the NFL implemented the salary cap era. The Patriots success is off the f---ing charts for a league that doesn't want sustained successful runs for individual franchises.

 

May 14, 2015

Not for nothing but if the champs get caught cheating, it's obvious there will be bigger consequences. (Spygate)

Just like it's obvious these penalties are more harsh because of the public out cry.

Will be reduced down to 2 games (if any at all, with no real proof against Brady)

 

May 14, 2015

YES. Thank you.

 

May 14, 2015

Poor Gronk thought he was going on TV just for the madden cover vote but got questioned for 5 minutes about deflate gate first lol.

 

May 14, 2015

Gronk is awesome lol.

 

May 14, 2015

Broncos situation was different. It was one man going rogue and doing it without any authority plus when he presented it to the coach, the coach refused to watch the tape and to top it off the Broncos reported the incident to the league themselves. The Patriots were filming hand signals to get an advantage, it wasn't one guy doing it alone, it was a group of people within the organization well aware of what was going on and allowed it to happen in order to get a competitive advantage. Clearly you can see how these two situations differ, right?

 

May 14, 2015

I didn't know that, props. But, I still think the Pats get f----- over royally with their infractions in relation to other teams when they "cheat" or are found with something incriminating.

Do you know the original penalty for deflating footballs, as of 2015, was only a 25K fine? But the Pats lose their starting QB for 4 games, lose a first round and fourth round draft pick, and are fined a million dollars because Brady "Probably could've had general knowledge" lol.

The only example I can think of, of a player not handing over his cell phone for an investigation was Bret Favre, and he was only fined 50K for it. Granted, it was sexting inappropriate pics, but this still is about holding the integrity of the league.

I don't give a s--- if Brady didn't hand his cell phone over or if they were two time offenders of breaking rules, the punishment did NOT match the crime. The NFL has said that they do not believe Kraft or Belichick knew about DeflateGate, and that Brady probably could've known something general about the situation. In MY opinion, that means Brady just wanted the footballs at the lowest they could go, and two rogue ball boys took it upon themselves to do more than what they should. That's what the evidence shows.

If you want to penalize Brady? Fine, they should've fined him (Brady has NO prior incidents with the NFL, and his only crime is not handing over his cell phone)... Fine Brady 200K and fire the two ball boys.

The ONLY reason this incident is a big deal is the stature of the Patriots, and the public outcry because of how much other fans hate the team.

If this was Geno Smith? I bet he'd get 25K fine...

I'll even say, if this was Drew Brees and the Saints (who have prior incidents with BountyGate) they'd probably get something like 100K fine or some bs.

 

May 14, 2015

What the NFL is trying to do is find a scape goat for THEIR f--- up in this whole ordeal.

If the NFL really gave a s--- about the integrity of the game in relation to deflating footballs, they wouldn't allow teams to be able to alter the most important piece of equipment.

They would handle the footballs. They should've changed the rule IMMEDIATELY. Guess what? They didn't. Teams still, after all this, can handle their own footballs and alter them the way they want.

The reason they won't change the rule, is that it would be basically admitting to the world that the NFL f----- up.

You don't hear of any other sport (at least to my knowledge) where a ball is handled by the teams competing. An umpire in baseball provides the baseballs, the pucks in hockey from the ref, the basketballs by ref, etc etc etc.

The NFL over penalized the Patriots and Brady because THEY f----- up, and they f----- up so much with all these domestic abuse cases and concussion issues that they needed to save face.

If they had something on Brady or the Pats, I would be OK with the penalties. But they truly have NOTHING.

 

May 14, 2015

Also you can say the Pats didnt cooperate with the NFL by not making McNally available for that last interview. But Wells himself said Brady was more then cooperative. Only thing he didnt do is hand over his phone, which i dont blame him for. Ppl seem to be harping on that but even if Brady had been in contact with McNally and the other dude, you think he still has those texts? Come on.

Listen if you are talking about spygate and the Pats not cooperating with the NFL, thats fine. But neither of those things should be tied to Brady and thats why his suspension is going to be at the very least reduced.

 

May 14, 2015

The NFL's looking at Brady and the Pats in the same way so in their mind it does seem the 2 are tied together, whether that's right or not.

 

May 14, 2015

Giants WR Odell Beckham Jr. will be on the cover of Madden 16

 

May 14, 2015

Arch reported this yesterday man.

 

May 14, 2015

Brady is going to have to turn over them emails/text messages now during the appeal hearing