NFL NFL Discussion Thread

Started by Kevin, Nov 23, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Motor City
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    My top 3 picks for MVP:
    1. JJ Watt
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Demarco Murray

    I'm rooting for the bad bad man Rodgers to get it though.
     
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  2. Motor City
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    Thank God i have Sunday off, those are 2 great games.
     
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  3. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Lions had MULTIPLE oppurtunities even after that controversial no call to put the game away. They had a 20-7 lead half way through the 3rd quarter for Christ sakes lol.
     
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  4. Mike02
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    I never thought I'd say this but I think Romo is the MVP. Dallas would probably be a 4-12 team without him, instead they're 12-4 and legit Super Bowl contenders. And yes he's more important to Dallas than Murray. They'd be able to get by without Murray but if Weeden was at QB instead of Romo they'd be drafting in the Top 10. So Tony Romo...
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  5. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Romo getting recognition from an Eagles fan

    :mjcry:
     
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  6. Mike02
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    Exactly. And the Lions got the ball back with 2:30 left in the game. Which is literally the PERFECT amount of time to drive down the field and score with no time remaining. And they didn't get it done. They have nobody to blame but themselves. They had a 20-7 lead in the second half and blew it.
     
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  7. Pryme
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    Pryme Smokin' Lethal Warrior

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    Why are we not talking about Lions trying to force an offsides on 4th and 1 and then punting instead of grabbing that extra yard and potentially sealing the game? One non call can change outcomes sure, but Lions deserved to lose with that overall 2nd half performance. In Romo we trust! And how about Jason Garrett with going for it on 4th down twice? Ohh wee

    But hey, Lions will be a contender for years to come with that Defense. Very impressive.
     
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  8. Kon
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    Lol I never agree with the 'they blew the game themselves so the call doesn't matter' side of things. Sure teams can collapse and give a game away but teams can also collapse and still hold onto the lead, it goes both ways. To me that doesn't change anything about the officiating, 2 different things. Neither team played that well though, let's be honest.
     
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  9. Howie
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    Even with them picking up the flag, they should have thrown a flag on Dez for coming on the field without a helmet on. That is a 15 yard penalty 100% of the time.
     
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  10. Kon
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    Still no reason they should have picked up the flag in the 1st place though. If it were true that they can have the head ref overturn a call like that, then why do we never see it happen other than yesterday on a crucial play in a playoff game? It was just a bad idea to pick up that flag, also I don't get how a ref can see something he thinks is a penalty and then be talked out of it. Maybe the ref who called it initially could see something from his point of view that the other ref couldn't see from his so it just makes no sense to me.
     
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  11. Pryme
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    Pryme Smokin' Lethal Warrior

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    Well of course the non-call matters. I never said otherwise. All I'm saying is there were several plays in the 2nd half that swung the momentum in the Cowboys' favor other than that one. Punting on 4th and 1 (terrible coaching with zero confidence in the offense), the shanked ten yard punt, allowing the conversion on 4th and 6, blatant holding towards the end.

    Speaking in general and not at you now: Insinuating the one bad call out of the upwards of almost 70 plays through the duration of the game is what decided the outcome is absolutely ridiculous. Lions simply did not seal the game and Cowboys found a way through great coaching and a veteran QB, just like they did many times this season.

    I agree officiating was bad, but it was not the deciding factor.
     
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  12. Legendary
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    Except it was the deciding factor lol. If the PI is (rightfully) called and/or Dez is flagged the game is completely different, and the lions at the very least get a FG in the drive, with more then a slight possibility for a TD that pretty much seals the deal. Then the blatant missed holding on the boys final TD was just icing on the cake. Detroit thoroughly outplayed dallas in the 1st half (when the refs weren't f---ing up every call/ aiding dallas) and then the refs got involved. "But Detroit blew it with or without the refs, they had chances" we're likely not saying that if the refs make two obvious f---ing calls (if not 3). What the refs did completely changed the game, and I believe if not for the calls, Detroit would have won.
     
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  13. Boos
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    The fact of the matter is there should have been two penalties on the play. Which would have changed the game dramatically. Yea you can say the Lions had their shot at the end of the game, but calls like that are so demoralizing to a team it's hard for them to get back up (it shouldn't affect them so much but they're human too). At the end of the day though missed calls happen all the time and the Cowboys are the team that are playing still. I'm sure the Lions aren't making excuses
     
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  14. Pryme
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    except there was questionable officiating in the first half too, and they benefited Detroit. It goes both ways and is part of the game. So let's play what if... Even IF Lions get a field goal on that drive it doesn't put the game out of reach. They would have needed the touchdown which their offensive production in 2nd half indicates it was not a guarantee. So what IF the ref never threw the flag in the first place and it was a straight up non call due to "letting the boys play"? Lions coach still elects to punt and they go to lose the game.. See where I'm going here? There are too many variables in sports to say this one flag pick up was the deciding factor. If you look at the big picture the Lions were outplayed 2nd half. Idk how anyone can disagree. @Legendary
     
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  15. Legendary
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    Yeah but IF they said "let the boys play" it's still a missed call lol. Still dosent excuse DEZ not getting flagged either. And a stop from Dallas was far from guaranteed, a TD basically locked it up. Name me a flag in the 1st half that was as clear as the one in the second half that was MISSED and I will agree lol with Detroit being benefited as much lol. It blew the game for Detroit, simple as that.
     
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  16. Sac
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    I agree that there should have been a call, but people claiming that the entire game was in the cowboys favor due to the refs must have seen a different first half, because the calls were benefiting the lions. I am a cowboys fan and of course I am happy with the win but I do wish they would have played better the first half.
     
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  17. Soldier
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    murray leads league in rushing cuz the line holds everyone
     
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  18. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Penalty for entering the field with no helmet is to the refs discretion, meaning not every time a player enters the field with no helmet it's a guaranteed penalty. In this instance it was a good no call, why would you want a stupid penalty like that, which has nothing to do with the game itself, to be the deciding factor in a playoff game? Lol the only reason you're complaining about that no call on Dez is because you're an Eagles fan.
     
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  19. Legendary
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    What DEZ did was a penalty lol no if ands or buts about it lol. He was excessively screaming in the middle of the field, it should have been called. Again there is no way BOTH penalties should have been missed on the play, and they missed the crucial holding on Tyron Smith on the last Cowboys TD, I thought that was blatant too. Either way, you guys (Cowboys fans) should enjoy this win, I'm just not sure the Boys deserve it.
     
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  20. Boos
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    A ton of controversy and arguing over a team that most likely won't be playing any longer a week from now lol
     
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